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If it gets contaminated, you have bigger problems than replacing your coolant.

It's probably an environmental issue. Antifreeze is extremely toxic, so less fluid changes means less stuff in the water system (where many people pour it). I'm not a greenie and I haven't thrown any out myself but I believe it is a serious concern.
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Re: New $$$ coolant required for 2013 model year vehicles

Isn't the coolant in the 2011-2012 WK2's already a 100,000 mile coolant? For most people they would reach that in 3-5 years. Even if they did one coolant flush I'm sure most people would sell the Jeep before they ever needed a second flush. The lifetime isn't a selling point for me. If it offered superior cooling ability or something like that then I'd be all over getting it in my WK2 SRT8.
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The lifetime isn't a selling point for me. If it offered superior cooling ability or something like that then I'd be all over getting it in my WK2 SRT8.
But see...there's nothing they are trying to sell to you. You won't ever have to buy the coolant...because if you bought a 2013 Jeep...it would never need to be replaced.
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I understand. I know they are not trying to sell it to me. I'm just still wondering why the switch? If it has any benefit besides it last longer. What's so special about it and what justifies the price. Again, I'd switch if it offered better cooling or something over what I already have. The cooler the Hemi runs the better the power. But if it just last longer then why the switch?


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Re: New $$$ coolant required for 2013 model year vehicles

OAT-based extended-life coolants. OAT stands for Organic Acid Technology, and includes such ingredients as sebacate, 2-ethylhexanoic acid (2-EHA) and other organic acids, but no silicates or phosphates (except in the case of Toyota's pink extended-life coolant, which adds a dose of phosphate to its extended-life OAT-based antifreeze). OAT-based coolants are usually (but not always) dyed a different color to distinguish them from traditional North American green antifreeze. GM OAT-based Dex-Cool is orange. Volkswagen/Audi uses a similar product that is dyed pink. But Honda has an extended-life OAT coolant that is dyed dark green and does not contain 2-EHA.

The corrosion inhibitors in OAT coolants are slower acting but much longer-lived than those in traditional North American green coolants. Consequently, OAT coolants typically have a recommended service life of five years or 150,000 miles (which ever comes first - which means you should change the coolant after five years and NOT wait until the odometer says 100,000 to 150,000 miles).

OAT corrosion inhibitors provide excellent long-term protection for aluminum and cast iron, but may not be the best choice for older cooling systems that have copper/brass radiators and heater cores. It depends on the formula.
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oh those pesky hose leaks just got expensive
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I understand. I know they are not trying to sell it to me. I'm just still wondering why the switch? If it has any benefit besides it last longer. What's so special about it and what justifies the price. Again, I'd switch if it offered better cooling or something over what I already have. The cooler the Hemi runs the better the power. But if it just last longer then why the switch?
The industry is going to less maintenance, longer serviceable life for fluids and components. They have to follow suit...
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Re: New $$$ coolant required for 2013 model year vehicles

Just make sure the young neophytes at Jiffy Lube don't mix the old stuff with new stuff. I can hear the Jeep service manager now ... sir, your 100,000 mile warranty is void because you have pink antifreeze in your radiator.

Although this is a good move for the environment, keep an eye on those oil changing neophytes.

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Not sure why Chrysler is moving to an OAT type long life coolant when the have been using a HOAT long life coolant (Hybrid Organic Acid Technology) with some silicates in it??

GM has had many problems with it's Dex-Cool branded OAT type coolant as the 2-ethylhexanoic acid (2-EHA) in it, (this chemical is a known plasticizer), has been prone to slowly dissolve many non metallic cooling system parts and gaskets!
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The industry is going to less maintenance, longer serviceable life for fluids and components. They have to follow suit...
Chrysler went to a longer service life, less maintenance 5yr, 100K mile HOAT (dyed bright orange) exclusively in 2001??

Why now go too long life OAT type coolant?? I don't get it?? Although that was when they were part of Mercedes who had been using HOAT type coolants with great success for over twenty years..... now partnered with FIAT who I'm sure use long life OAT type coolants across the product line.
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Maybe because its poision?

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any reason why 2011/2012 users would *not* want to switch over to this coolant also?
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any reason why someone with a 2006 gc shouldnt change over to that type of coolant? expensive up front... but if its what you say... could be fairly inexpensive in the long run! wouldn't mind runnin it in my 3.7 if applicable.
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