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Re: Optima Battery

Optima's are no where the batteries they were years ago. And the competitors are not making as good or better batteries for a fraction of the price.

Here in Canada most of us have switch from Optima's to MotoMaster Eliminator Ultra Flat Plate AGM Automotive Battery. Half the price and they just don't go bad.

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Re: Optima Battery

Get XS power battery instead. Way better quality than current Optima batteries
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Old 04-22-2015, 09:04 AM
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Re: Optima Battery

Anyone use this one?

DieHard Advanced Gold AGM Battery 94R: Invest in the Best at Sears
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Re: Optima Battery

Yes they can be 100% different as per each companies specs, but in some cases it's just that, only a different case. Even more it's just a different sticker on the lower end stuff. Johnsoncontrols.com manufactures a huge portion of the batteries you see on shelves, from Optima to Sears, Advance, interstate, to 20+ other companies. Exide makes up another huge portion of our branded batteries.
The variation in the internals of some warrant the chase for a best, but in some respects it's a dog chasing its tail for regular use And when sticking to a major "brand" .. The info is out there to show who has the worst failure rate and the best warranty etc. personally I'd never put an optima in a grand, it's the wrong battery.
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Please don't think I mean to discredit this battery it is an awesome product that has fit a need I've had several times in the past. But for me the picky ass nature of the WK2 and the asshats that pass for trained service writers around here have turned me into one stealthy sob with anything non stock appearing.

That is a big difference at $300,shipped?,but it is the "correct" battery only by specs, in no way is it a drop in replacement.. I'm not saying you are wrong at all just underestimating the pita fabbing a nice bottom mount for a battery can be. Shops around here love saying they can do it, then....People ride around with clunking batteries for months until they find the right size wood block to shove in there.... Then they come over and we fix the bs. No thank you, I have the tools and material to put a lithium in there in a custom cradle, but I also have a militant service manager with the warranty denied stamp ready to go, right or wrong he's a pita..

I found a way to add some reserve,CA,AH with an OE hold down and batt size... Don't get me wrong I modify the crap out of everything, I'm just old as shit now and like to figure out better ways to skin a cat. It took me 2 hours to put air in my tires yesterday, dude watching was gonna shoot me just to put me out of my misery.
In a commuter car I'll take a little more reserve over super clean power, think leaving your lights on and the car starts when you get back vs. better equipment performance by 5-10%?


This batt is $180 installed everyday but sometimes as low as $130, and it's warrantied at 4000k stores, walk in. Backed by a billion dollar company, good and bad. I'm 90% it's made by Johnson Controls. AGM's are very well made at this level and the rate of error is super low in certain companies. They last longer by far and these are warrantied for 3/7yrs full/pro.
Acid Included: Yes
Battery Type: AGM
Battery Usage: Auto/Truck
BCI Group Size: H8
Cold Cranking Amps: 900
Cranking Amps: 1000
Deep Cycle/Starting: Dual Purpose
Height: 7.5
Length: 13.94
Maintenance Free: Yes
AH: 95
Reserve Capacity: 160
Terminal Type: SAE
Weight: 59.45
Width: 6.938
Ok where an we get one of these?

Who sells them? Link?
Are these sold with a different sticker from several different retailers? Pic?
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Re: Optima Battery

It's no secret, I thought I mentioned it before, I use Advance as a reference because they have a very low rate of return, batteries do not sit on their shelves either, a large national presence, and allow coupons that yank $50 off an already ok price, free install, etc.
They are currently $188 less at least 20% or more if you google. Great deal really considering they are JC batteries and others charge more. I like diehard batteries too, I'm just done going to Sears after 30 years.. Others have fine batteries too, not taking anything away just think we're treated as consumers a little deceptively..

My ipad2 is useless at this point as anything more than an internet typewriter so I can't link crap. I'll do it later if you need it but I bet if you google -advance agm h8- you'll be good.
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Code WD516 it'll work for a little longer. it'll bring the total to $158.99 and you'll get the $20 core at the store $139 installed If Sears can touch that I'd be impressed.

But remember this is for the H8 out of the diesel. Not the H7 for the rest.
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It's no secret, I thought I mentioned it before, I use Advance as a reference because they have a very low rate of return, batteries do not sit on their shelves either, a large national presence, and allow coupons that yank $50 off an already ok price, free install, etc.
They are currently $188 less at least 20% or more if you google. Great deal really considering they are JC batteries and others charge more. I like diehard batteries too, I'm just done going to Sears after 30 years.. Others have fine batteries too, not taking anything away just think we're treated as consumers a little deceptively..

My ipad2 is useless at this point as anything more than an internet typewriter so I can't link crap. I'll do it later if you need it but I bet if you google -advance agm h8- you'll be good.
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Code WD516 it'll work for a little longer. it'll bring the total to $158.99 and you'll get the $20 core at the store $139 installed If Sears can touch that I'd be impressed.

But remember this is for the H8 out of the diesel. Not the H7 for the rest.
Since our battery is under the passenger seat, does Advance install it for "free"?
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Since our battery is under the passenger seat, does Advance install it for "free"?
I checked the Advance Auto website for this battery and they describe that the battery is located under the passenger seat and that it may take 45 minutes for them to install it. So, yes, free installation by them if you want someone crawling around in your back seat tying to do this. I'll do it myself.

Thanks for the info on this battery, Nonstop.
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Re: Optima Battery

It's a $140 upgrade/alternative to the $200+ options out there. There shouldn't be complications with someone sliding your seat forward with a button and loosening four nuts. It's clumsy crap at that point that's dangerous.
I know some of the "help" is not actually helpful, but if you look I'm sure there are some decent guys at stores near you.
Not all the counter "help" knows the specifics of every vehicle out there, you could be very helpful and guide them or inform them of the intricacies of the Grand because yes, you will likely know more about your Jeep than them.

But if you want, save yourself the fun of watching the guy struggle and install it yourself, three tools? and ten minutes I think we all prefer to do it our own way, I do. Put a towel over the door sill just in case and be patient and smooth, it's just heavy and awkward, not hard.

Remember the H7 is the factory battery to use the bigger H8 you'll need to modify your hold down or get the one from the '14 diesel. I know I'm missing something but I can't find my pics.
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Re: Optima Battery

It's too heavy for me at my age(75+) so I'll pay extra if I have to.

Btw, receiving this charger today: Amazon.com: OptiMate 6 Ampmatic battery saving charger-tester-maintainer: Automotive
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Realized my 10+ year old charger should not be used on my Jeep's AGM battery nor on the Optima in my wife's Murano. Also have an AGM battery in my John Deere lawn riding mower.

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