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Re: Pentastar Throttle delay

TSB 18-012-11 cleared up this issue for me. Check out this thread! : http://jeepgarage.org/showthread.php?t=19471
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Re: Pentastar Throttle delay

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Have you had this TSB done? if not and your vehicle was built prior to 30 DEC 2010 have it done and it will fix your issue and a few others.

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk2_1800111.pdf

Since having it done the throttle is more responsive, transmission shifts smoother up and down and the ESC kicks in much quicker. I'm telling you its like driving a different vehicle. It will work on your V6 to...there another thread on it somewhere one here. One person said, that their V6 was like the Hemi in throttle response.
Wow! Am I pumped!

Had the ESC and V6 transmission TSBs done today at my dealer (apparently a first for at least the second one for them, since they were very reluctant, even though I gave them the printed TSBs, my vehicle fit the applicable build dates and I had been experiencing the problems.) They said they called Chrysler Engineering to discuss and get approval to apply them (actually the equivalent RRT flashes). As background, I'm at three months of ownership and 9,000 kms (5,400 miles).

In the past few weeks I had noticed the V6 had become more responsive. Put it down to possible throttle 'training' or the end of ESC system training (first 50 starts).

But after the TSBs this is a whole new vehicle, driven now for about 100 miles since they were applied. Almost like an old cable operated throttle. End of the throttle delay and and crisper shifts in all modes, even Auto.

To top it off the EVIC is showing better fuel economy too. I don't fully trust that, but I'll be checking my future tankfuls.

And it was free! It doesn't get much better than that. So good, I called the dealer back to report my good experience. I bet they don't get too many calls like that. Hopefully they will not be so hesitant to apply the TSBs for future customers.

If you have V6 throttle delay you should look into this!
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Re: Pentastar Throttle delay

As I was one of the most critical reviewers in this thread I would like to give an update.

I went to the dealer in order to apply the latest TSB 18-012-11 and I am happy now. There is no throttle dalay any more. A seamless acceleration is now possible.

It is obvious that Chrysler is with us and reads these threads. So I have to say Good Job Chrysler, Thank You

(one minor point though, I had to convince my dealer to apply the TSB. If I would not be a member of this forum the dealer would have never contacted me and I would have never known that such TSB exists. IMHO everyone should have this TSB applied)
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Re: Pentastar Throttle delay

Just bought a GC Ltd with V6 which is factory order. Can I assume that all TSBs will be in the new GCs?
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Re: Pentastar Throttle delay

i'm curious as well, oldguy! I will be visiting the dealer soon to check this out. I bought my WK2 recently (tail end of Feb) and will be looking for the sticker. If anyone has a pic of where it should be? I'll do some digging, as my Service Tech is actually pretty cool, i'll get him to scan the thing and he'll let me know if the update was applied or not
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Re: Pentastar Throttle delay

If you check the TSB itself (see link below), you'll notice that this one does not have an introduction paragraph that says it is being applied to all vehicles. Apparently is it intended to deal with specific issues only (unlike the ESC TSB 18-001-11 which applies to all).

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk2_1801211.pdf

To get the module flashes applied that are included, I also had to convince my dealer. Had to show them the printed TSB, describe conditions that are similar to what it describes, and they still called Chrysler before applying it. After all that they did not apply a sticker, but Milous confirmed that a PCM flash had been done.

So far, the hesitation on shifting is gone so I am happy.
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Re: Pentastar Throttle delay

This is the 3rd TSB that was applied to my WK2 and I never got a sticker.
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Re: Pentastar Throttle delay

I am totally happy.....had the lastest TSB done on my 2011 GC 6 and it runs like a new car should, no throttle delay and it is fun to drive now. Now this car is perfect! Thankgoodness they finally got it fixed. My only regret is that I had to drive it for 10,000 miles before Chrysler figured out that a TSB was needed to fix the dead spot in the accelerator.

One week later: I am still totally in awe of driving this car now.....it is a totally different vehicle than the one I drove off the Jeep dealer lot when it was new. I love it!!! At first I was afraid it was just a temporary adjustment or something the dealer made, but after a thousand miles it is still awesome to drive. Thanks Jeep for correcting this problem.
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Re: Pentastar Throttle delay

Did you have to bring the TSB bulletin with you or did they apply the updates without you having to prove to them that it was indeed an issue?


Also does anyone have a link to the latest TSB for this issue? I purchased my Jeep in late September and it has bad throttle delay that I would like to fix, its a shame because the Pentastart does have good power for a V6 and could be a blast to drive.
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Re: Pentastar Throttle delay

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Did you have to bring the TSB bulletin with you or did they apply the updates without you having to prove to them that it was indeed an issue?


Also does anyone have a link to the latest TSB for this issue? I purchased my Jeep in late September and it has bad throttle delay that I would like to fix, its a shame because the Pentastart does have good power for a V6 and could be a blast to drive.
It never hurts to bring the TSB(s) along with you. Let's the dealer know you have researched the matter and avoids them using the old smokescreens (don't ask me why some people are like that).

All TSBs are at the WK2Jeeps.com site:
http://www.wk2jeeps.com/wk2_tsb.htm

Two affect the throttle and transmission responsiveness:

ESC, which is apparently applied without too much difficulty to all WK2s:
http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk2_1800111.pdf

and the V6 Transmission TSB, which it seems some dealers are reluctant to apply unless you press them. Be prepared to give examples of poor performance that fit the descriptions on the TSB:
http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk2_1801211.pdf
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Re: Pentastar Throttle delay

I just went today with a printed out TSB with the parts that affect my WK2's performance highlighted. The service guy was sympathetic and scheduled me for an appointment to apply the fix. All bets are to the guy who goes into his service department with his homework and some background knowledge. He never said anything about a sticker either, and looked in the system to see if the fix was previously applied, but said "no."
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Re: Pentastar Throttle delay

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Did you have to bring the TSB bulletin with you or did they apply the updates without you having to prove to them that it was indeed an issue?


Also does anyone have a link to the latest TSB for this issue? I purchased my Jeep in late September and it has bad throttle delay that I would like to fix, its a shame because the Pentastart does have good power for a V6 and could be a blast to drive.
Print out the TSBs when you bring the vehicle in. Make sure your service department understands you've done your homework and insist that they perform the necessary TSBs. On occasion, they'll complain that if you don't have the symptoms in the TSB, you don't need an update. True, but in this case, the acceleration issue is easily solved.

You'll be very pleased after this is done. It really makes a world of difference in acceleration. Since I had it done several weeks ago, I've rarely used sport mode or manual shift option since it the engine responds so well.

(and make sure you remind your dealer that you share your experiences on online forums both good and bad)
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