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Old 03-28-2012, 05:06 PM
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Re: reasonable weight to tow with 3.6 pentastar.

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I would not tow over 3500 lbs or large frontal area trailers on a regular basis with the V6. I would agree that heavier and larger frontal trailers need the Hemi and factory towing package. But I am a cautious sort...
I would 100% agree. I havn't seen many V6 vehicles tow much more than 3500 lbs, especially not 5,000 lbs. The new 8 speed tranny for the 2013 might be better off, however, I would play it safe if you have the current V6. The manual might say 5,000 lbs, but again, that's a limit and just because you can go to the limit, doesn't mean you always should. Even with my Hemi and tow package, I'm cautious of going up to 5,000. I would have bought a Ford Super Duty if I needed the extra tow capacity.
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Old 03-28-2012, 05:23 PM
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Re: reasonable weight to tow with 3.6 pentastar.

Everyone seems to be worried about HP. Hp is very small part of towing safe. You can to a trailer with a golf cart but will have a hell of a time stopping. A vehicle 3/4 ton class is for towing 5000 plus trailers.Brakes & Transmission & tranny coolers are more important than HP.To tow a small 2000 to 5000 trailer all you need a V6 or V8 with oversize brakes & tranny cooled tow package. Oh and a weight distribution hitch with sway bars & a in cabin brake controller. Then you are safe! I towed a 4500 TT with a 1/2 ton V8 Chevy PU with same HP & weight as V6 GC and when a Tractor trailer passed you better have a brake controller.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:44 PM
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We just got a 2012 Overland v6 with O/R package and I'd say these Michelins are the most pathetic looking "O/R" tires I've seen.

That said, I've had experience with the Goodyear Fortura tires on 3 previous JGCs and a Commander and those were barely even capable as on road tires. We specifically looked or the O/R package on the Overland just to avoid the GY Forturas that come in the 20's (as well as on the Laredo 17's).
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:56 PM
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Re: reasonable weight to tow with 3.6 pentastar.

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We just got a 2012 Overland v6 with O/R package and I'd say these Michelins are the most pathetic looking "O/R" tires I've seen.

That said, I've had experience with the Goodyear Fortura tires on 3 previous JGCs and a Commander and those were barely even capable as on road tires. We specifically looked or the O/R package on the Overland just to avoid the GY Forturas that come in the 20's (as well as on the Laredo 17's).
Yes they both suck. The Michelins that you get with ORA2 package are street tires not AT like the build sheet says. That's misleading & bad judgement on jeep. Is all about MPG not performance.
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Re: reasonable weight to tow with 3.6 pentastar.

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Everyone seems to be worried about HP. Hp is very small part of towing safe. You can to a trailer with a golf cart but will have a hell of a time stopping. A vehicle 3/4 ton class is for towing 5000 plus trailers.Brakes & Transmission & tranny coolers are more important than HP.To tow a small 2000 to 5000 trailer all you need a V6 or V8 with oversize brakes & tranny cooled tow package. Oh and a weight distribution hitch with sway bars & a in cabin brake controller. Then you are safe! I towed a 4500 TT with a 1/2 ton V8 Chevy PU with same HP & weight as V6 GC and when a Tractor trailer passed you better have a brake controller.
So with ORA I and the Quadra trac II do either of these provide you with a heavier duty transmission cooler? i would think that they would, or atleast hope they would. i love jeep and think they are awesome off road and have been in the past, great 4x4 sytem but damn if they were think 100% on off road on the wk2.
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:15 AM
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Re: reasonable weight to tow with 3.6 pentastar.

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So with ORA I and the Quadra trac II do either of these provide you with a heavier duty transmission cooler? i would think that they would, or atleast hope they would. i love jeep and think they are awesome off road and have been in the past, great 4x4 sytem but damn if they were think 100% on off road on the wk2.
I don't see it on their build site. You can always get the cooler installed after not expensive.
COOLER. Condenser and Trans Cooler. . http://www.factorychryslerparts.com/...5038003AF.html
This fits your 2012 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE 4x4, 3.6L V6 VVT, 5-Speed Auto W5A580 LAREDO.
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Re: reasonable weight to tow with 3.6 pentastar.

I wouldn't go above 80% of the max rating. This will give you a safety margin. The towing package is a lot more than a hitch and trailer light hookup. It includes trans and oil cooling system, load leveling, and a factory fit hitch. If you get the ORA II I believe the brakes are larger. You could push it to the max and it could seem fine, but the life of your engine and trans will be shortened. Also if you tow, you should change your engine oil sooner than 8k miles and have a trans filter and flush done more often.
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Re: reasonable weight to tow with 3.6 pentastar.

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I wouldn't go above 80% of the max rating. This will give you a safety margin. The towing package is a lot more than a hitch and trailer light hookup. It includes trans and oil cooling system, load leveling, and a factory fit hitch. If you get the ORA II I believe the brakes are larger. You could push it to the max and it could seem fine, but the life of your engine and trans will be shortened. Also if you tow, you should change your engine oil sooner than 8k miles and have a trans filter and flush done more often.
Good advice And a lot more than HP.
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Re: reasonable weight to tow with 3.6 pentastar.

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I don't see it on their build site. You can always get the cooler installed after not expensive.
COOLER. Condenser and Trans Cooler. . http://www.factorychryslerparts.com/...5038003AF.html
This fits your 2012 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE 4x4, 3.6L V6 VVT, 5-Speed Auto W5A580 LAREDO.
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Categories Cooling > Transmission Oil Cooler, and Lines Assemblies Transmission Oil Cooler and Lines (COOLER. Condenser and Trans Cooler. . "Front End Parts Module"+"Heavy Duty Engine Cooling". Required: 001) Manufacturer Chrysler
Thanks alot rockrash! i guess im gonna regret not puchasing the tow package, seeing that it was very inexspensive... maybe i can take it to the dealership and have a factory one installed there.
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Re: reasonable weight to tow with 3.6 pentastar.

Good to Know. ''Quote '' A trailer sway control feature is standard on all 2011-up models of the Grand Cherokee. Trailer Sway Control uses sensors in the vehicle to recognize an excessively swaying trailer and will take the appropriate actions to attempt to stop the sway. The system may reduce engine power and apply the brake of the appropriate wheel(s) to counteract the sway of the trailer. The TSC will become active automatically once an excessively swaying trailer is recognized. No driver action is required.
http://wk2jeeps.com/wk2menu.htm.
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Re: reasonable weight to tow with 3.6 pentastar.

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Thanks alot rockrash! i guess im gonna regret not puchasing the tow package, seeing that it was very inexspensive... maybe i can take it to the dealership and have a factory one installed there.
This is in addition to a tow package. A standard tow package consist of trailer hitch, & 7 pin wiring ,and cover plate for bumper cutout.
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Re: reasonable weight to tow with 3.6 pentastar.

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This is in addition to a tow package. A standard tow package consist of trailer hitch, & 7 pin wiring ,and cover plate for bumper cutout.
do you think the load leveling suspennsion is needed if im towing around 2500 pounds? and the trailer sway control is standard or i have to have the tow package?
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