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Old 03-28-2011, 07:54 PM
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Re: Test drove V-6 today - Not excited

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Good to know theres an update for the V6. I bought mine back in September, one of the firsts on the lot. Im sure it has the old software, the gear shifting down low sucks. Ill bring this to the service dept. attention
I printed out the TSB and marked the symptoms I was feeling (mainly the hesitation when I came out of a corner due to being in the wrong gear). There's a thread about the TSB and you can find a link to the actual document there.

If you go in and say "I want this done," they may argue with you about it. If you say "I was feeling some response issues and found this... my symptoms are X, Y, and Z," they'll be more likely to take care of things (don't claim to have symptoms you haven't felt, but there's likely one or two you have noted).
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Re: Test drove V-6 today - Not excited

I have a V6 limited and the pick up is fine. I am not planning on drag racing a WK2 and when I wanna pass someone at a stop sign or something I am pretty sure I could do it.

I appreciate the moderate gas mileage I get and if I wanted a peppy SUV, the hemi is an option. There are always trade offs. If you want a speedy SUVget a Cheyenne.
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Re: Test drove V-6 today - Not excited

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I printed out the TSB and marked the symptoms I was feeling (mainly the hesitation when I came out of a corner due to being in the wrong gear). There's a thread about the TSB and you can find a link to the actual document there.

If you go in and say "I want this done," they may argue with you about it. If you say "I was feeling some response issues and found this... my symptoms are X, Y, and Z," they'll be more likely to take care of things (don't claim to have symptoms you haven't felt, but there's likely one or two you have noted).
That's exactly the right approach. If you have old software with the V6 be prepared for a new experience after the updates.
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Re: Test drove V-6 today - Not excited

I have a December build date, so I'm not sure if I have the update. I did notice early upshift leaving me with a crappy power band. Strangely that problem seems to have subsided quite a bit. I'm not sure if it's my driving style has compensated, the Jeep has broken in, or the transmission is adaptive. I haven't been in for first service yet, but planto do so soon (4k miles just hit).

I will say this, as its broken in the V6 is no slouch. I don't drive in sport mode yet (gotta save something for summer and I punched it this morning to get around someone and I went from 20 mph - 60 a lot faster than I expected.

I love the sound and nuts from a V8, but unless I'm getting something that does the quarter mile in the 12s or less then I might as well get the "economy" version and save up for my "fun" car

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I have a December build date, so I'm not sure if I have the update. I did notice early upshift leaving me with a crappy power band. Strangely that problem seems to have subsided quite a bit. I'm not sure if it's my driving style has compensated, the Jeep has broken in, or the transmission is adaptive. I haven't been in for first service yet, but planto do so soon (4k miles just hit).

I will say this, as its broken in the V6 is no slouch. I don't drive in sport mode yet (gotta save something for summer and I punched it this morning to get around someone and I went from 20 mph - 60 a lot faster than I expected.

I love the sound and nuts from a V8, but unless I'm getting something that does the quarter mile in the 12s or less then I might as well get the "economy" version and save up for my "fun" car

-Ryan
I had a similar experience: my V6 throttle hesitation decreased all on its own after I had owned it about 5 weeks. I'm guessing it was something to do with throttle and transmission adaptation.

But having said that, the two TSBs issued since the New Year for ESC (both engines) and PCM/TCM (V6) made MUCH bigger difference - night and day. Check them out!
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Re: Test drove V-6 today - Not excited

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I had a similar experience: my V6 throttle hesitation decreased all on its own after I had owned it about 5 weeks. I'm guessing it was something to do with throttle and transmission adaptation.

But having said that, the two TSBs issued since the New Year for ESC (both engines) and PCM/TCM (V6) made MUCH bigger difference - night and day. Check them out!

Thanks, I will definitely get it in to have those done soon.

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Re: Test drove V-6 today - Not excited

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I have a December build date, so I'm not sure if I have the update. I did notice early upshift leaving me with a crappy power band. Strangely that problem seems to have subsided quite a bit. I'm not sure if it's my driving style has compensated, the Jeep has broken in, or the transmission is adaptive. I haven't been in for first service yet, but planto do so soon (4k miles just hit).

I will say this, as its broken in the V6 is no slouch. I don't drive in sport mode yet (gotta save something for summer and I punched it this morning to get around someone and I went from 20 mph - 60 a lot faster than I expected.

I love the sound and nuts from a V8, but unless I'm getting something that does the quarter mile in the 12s or less then I might as well get the "economy" version and save up for my "fun" car

-Ryan
I think it was before Dec. 20th for the vehicles that need the TSB applied.

Wait for the SRT8. You'll have the 12 second 1/4 mile. I can't wait to see that vehicle. You can bet I'll be test driving one.
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Re: Test drove V-6 today - Not excited

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I had a similar experience: my V6 throttle hesitation decreased all on its own after I had owned it about 5 weeks. I'm guessing it was something to do with throttle and transmission adaptation.

But having said that, the two TSBs issued since the New Year for ESC (both engines) and PCM/TCM (V6) made MUCH bigger difference - night and day. Check them out!
There are so many TSB's on the list I looked at and wanted to be sure I tell the dealer to please perform the 2 I want done. Can you post the 2 you're referring to as I too have a V6 and notice a hesitation in the throttle, especially when stopped a traffic light, and the tranny shifting to 3rd gear too soon making it feel sluggish. Thanks.
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There are so many TSB's on the list I looked at and wanted to be sure I tell the dealer to please perform the 2 I want done. Can you post the 2 you're referring to as I too have a V6 and notice a hesitation in the throttle, especially when stopped a traffic light, and the tranny shifting to 3rd gear too soon making it feel sluggish. Thanks.
The ESC item is more than a regular TSB; it's a RRT- not quite a recall, but something the dealer will do as the vehicle crosses their path. As for the TSB for the PCM, there's several threads about it in the troubleshooting area. Go in there; I think one is even a sticky.
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Re: Test drove V-6 today - Not excited

Just reminder. Gas price is $4 now, going to be $5 pretty soon. Hope not feeling the pain at pump.

And I got 21mpg in mixed city and free way drive with what? You bet!
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There are so many TSB's on the list I looked at and wanted to be sure I tell the dealer to please perform the 2 I want done. Can you post the 2 you're referring to as I too have a V6 and notice a hesitation in the throttle, especially when stopped a traffic light, and the tranny shifting to 3rd gear too soon making it feel sluggish. Thanks.
The two TSBs that helped my V6 throttle hesitation are (via Milous's WK2 web site):

ESC (applies to both V6 and V8), known as TSB 18-001-11 or as RRT 11-002, issued Jan. 8, 2011:
http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk2_1800111.pdf

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PSM/TCM for V6 transmission/throttle issues, known as TSB 18-012-11a, first issued on Feb. 24, 2011 as 18-012-11 but revised/replaced with the last letter designator 'a' on March 29, 2011:
http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk2_1801211a.pdf

I had both (ESC, and the first version of PCM/TCM prior to revision 'a') installed at one service visit, so I cannot say which made the biggest difference. I just know the total effect was Wow!

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I had both (ESC, and the first version of PCM/TCM prior to revision 'a') installed at one service visit, so I cannot say which made the biggest difference. I just know the total effect was Wow!
Mine were done at different times. The ESC update was helpful- there were a couple times in the snow when I felt the rear end slip before, but it didn't happen after. But for the performance, that was the PCM/TCM update, and it is a big difference.
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