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Old 03-03-2011, 04:32 PM
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

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There's several of us who felt that the Hemi was not a significant improvement over the Pentastar.

With 10K miles on my V-6 WK2, I still have no complaints about the engine power; I'm currently sitting at the dealer for an unrelated trim issue, but I'm having them apply the TSB for the overzealous upshifting and occasional lack of response, and that should make things even better.

It's important to remember that these aren't sports cars. The weight and size mean that only something astonishingly powerful will make it feel like that, and an engine like that will drink fuel like a Pepsi through a fire hose. If you want performance, SUVs are a bad place to look. But for what it is, IMO, the WK2 is quite good.
Hey if you haven't had the ESC TSB done I highly suggest that you get it done too...takes less than 20 minutes....big difference.
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

Maybe worth waiting for the ZF 8 speed which is definitely coming. Should make for much more responsive shifting (and better mileage) If diesel is not coming, I will at least be waiting for the the new transmission before buying.
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

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I had the same experience. I asked for the v6. Dealer kept talking up the v8. I finally agreed to test drive a v8, and it was like-- Seriously? You saw me drive up in a bmw 335i and you expected me to be impressed by this? Awful throttle response and transmission. That said, the v6 is just as bad, but at least I get better MPG saved $1500.
You really think the Hemi is "just as bad" as the V6?

Did your test drive actually leave the parking lot? The V6 is decent, but has significantly slower throttle response and no where near the "effortless" feeling the HEMI gives the WK2.
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

Sorry, with my "Just as bad" comment, I was referring to the throttle response and transmission, not the general performance.

I can say that I miss holding 5th gear up a mild grade, which I'd expect the hemi to handle much better than the v6. But even so that would be less of an issue if they a more seamless transmission.

And the TSB likely fixed the issue I experienced with throttle response. I tried a 60-80 passing test. I felt no immediate throttle response, so I gave it even more gas, at which point it finally responded with a violent kick-down. Which just reminded me this was no where near as refined as my 335i.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:50 PM
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

I traded my '02 WJ 4.7 L V8 Overland for the WK2 Overland 5.7 L . I too was not impressed by the Hemi at first. However, I had the ESC update a month ago and it has made a difference. Throttle response is much better and I'm finally pleased with the Hemi.
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

I've been pretty pleased with my Hemi, but I was expecting more of a kick in the butt when you mash the throttle. Instead it is refined and somewhat subdued. The power is still there though. My wife has an LR3 and my Overland easily takes it -- especially at any speed above 60 mph. It has become more responsive and faster after breaking it in a bit too. Sport mode really helps as well.
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

I dont own a WK2 but have test driven both the V6 and V8 and have owned an 05 hemi and 08 SRT8. I always get surprised when I see these comments about people not impressed by the Hemi power. I think it feels great especially the mid range cruising power. For example if your just cruising at 40mph and want to pass a car the Jeep has good power without even changing a gear. Throttle response felt good to me as well. And this is coming from someone who has owned a 505hp 3,000lb C6 Z06 Corvette and the Hemi sure impresses me. The V6 lacked the fun factor to me but for someone looking to just use it as a normal car the V6 would be fine.

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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

I want to add that I have (still) a 2002 4.7 WJ too, and to be honest, I thought it was faster than the WK2.

It's not, and after 4000 miles, I think I know why it felt faster:

Because of the electronic throttle control, the WK2 has very fine control at low speed. My WJ is more "jumpy" with light throttle, giving an imnpression of quickness.

Taking off in the WJ is much more of an "event". The WK2 is so much more quiet and smooth I find myself going much, much faster than I thought I was before looking at the speedometer.

Put the WK2 into sport mode, activate tow/haul, and then go for a drive. You'll find it every bit as responsive as the WJ.

Interestingly, I get slightly better mileage with the WK2 than the WJ despite the extra 1000 pounds and bigger engine.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:13 PM
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

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Hey if you haven't had the ESC TSB done I highly suggest that you get it done too...takes less than 20 minutes....big difference.
Already had that done. The new TSB is a BIGGER difference... throttle response is far better now.
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

Underwhelmed is right. The soft ETC doesn't help. But the bottom line is it's a 5200 lb truck with extremely tall, wide gearing. The Hemi is stout enough to be tolerable in spite of that, and it sounds pretty good, but it's not fast by any stretch.

It strikes me as kind of backwards that Chrysler gives a $25,000 Ram the variable intake runner for 30 more horses and the option of reasonable rear ends (3.92 or 4.10) yet their $40,000 flagship Jeep only comes in weak and weaker.

The 8 speed for 2013 will help a lot.
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

I like reading this (sorry wk2 guys, but I know I know your interior is a lot better) because it eases my pain as I wait for the 2012 SRT8...my wk is 4400 pounds (2wd ) and with my mods close to the hp if not the same. I am sub-6 sec 0-60 now...I do not off road, obviously, and enjoy going quicker rather than slower haha! I am very impressed with the wk2 platform and fit/finish, especially when compared to my wk and can't wait for the 6.4
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

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I wasn't blown away by the power but when my Wife and I drove one we were impressed, and I came out of an SRT8 Jeep and she drives an M3.
I agree w/MikeD just today drove a HEMI @ Manhattan Jeep dealer. Currently drive a 99' JEEP GC so the improvement to me was substantial. All relative, as I'm sure it would have been a different experience had I drove up in a more refined sedan, etc. Loved the test drive, glad I have a HEMI on order.
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