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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

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When I was doing research before buying, the 8.4sec number I saw from Chrysler engineers was for the V6 Laredo. FWIW, my Hemi 4x4 has no trouble pulling ahead of my neighbor's Audi Q7 4.2 V8 to 60mph by just over a car length...over and over. (Q7 0-60 magazine tested 7.2 to 7.4sec range). I believe magazines still use a GtechPro, not a track-timed measurement; that can yield wildly varied results if not perfectly calibrated. YMMV.

The Hemi is no street racing beast by any means, but it's no slouch either.


Moose, I hear you on the fat butt thing. A couple of us big guys in a Sonata would probably make it ride on the suspension stops.
Sorry, no real magazine uses a gtech pro... they use a 5th wheel and or gps systems
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BTW, I just love how defensive hemi owners get when they are told their trucks are slow... be it in a jeep or a ram... lol, anyone want to take me on in my car with a 1.3L engine?
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BTW, I just love how defensive hemi owners get when they are told their trucks are slow... be it in a jeep or a ram... lol, anyone want to take me on in my car with a 1.3L engine?
Yes, I do. I have driven and owned plenty of fast, and powerful low displacement engine cars. In these cars you have two choices launching off the line, either thrash your transmission by dumping at high RPMs, or get left in the rear view mirror. I have always hated those choices, which is why I much prefer large displacement engines. My 2010 Audi A4 Quattro is faster on paper than my 2011 GC Hemi, but it will fall behind the Hemi pretty quickly off the line unless I severely thrashed my manual transmission on the Audi, which is basically how the magazines get the fast times from cars like that, it looks good on paper but has no real benefit in day to day driving. I will be happy to race your 1.3L unless you have the chrome big tube exhaust on the back, which I find very intimidating.
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

I love pulling hard off the line on a snow and ice covered road. Always fastest off the line, even with full size pickups and any other SUV. Torque gets it off the line and faster then you, torque to a 1.3 liter is the bully taking your lunch money and spanking you

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BTW, I just love how defensive hemi owners get when they are told their trucks are slow... be it in a jeep or a ram... lol, anyone want to take me on in my car with a 1.3L engine?
I completely understand why people like their V6's, but since this thread was specifically going after Hemi owners ... I love how V6 owners describe their cars at "Fine", "More Than Adequate", "Able To Cruise at 80MPH", "Peppy", "Powerful Enough", ... None of these descriptions make me wish I had bought the V6.
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

It seems like (for the most part) that 3.6L owners are trying to say that the hemi is slow and hemi owners are trying to say it fast. Its all a matter of viewpoint. One things is for sure, the hemi is faster and tows more than the 3.6 and thats why people get the hemi.
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Sorry, no real magazine uses a gtech pro... they use a 5th wheel and or gps systems
I wish they all still used 5th wheels, but they don't. My error on calling it a "Gtech". It's called the Vbox, and yes I was alluding to it being a GPS system. Accelerometer systems have a sketchy history and while GPS systems are much better, they are not as consistently accurate as real physical testing on the ground. When I used to track race regularly, people started using GPS systems but cussed quite a bit about wild swings in measurement compared to actual track numbers (+/- half sec differences) while tuning their cars. In either case, magazines also use calculations to adjust for temperature, air pressure, etc. that can account for comparative discrepancies in publications.
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Yes, I do. I have driven and owned plenty of fast, and powerful low displacement engine cars. In these cars you have two choices launching off the line, either thrash your transmission by dumping at high RPMs, or get left in the rear view mirror. I have always hated those choices, which is why I much prefer large displacement engines. My 2010 Audi A4 Quattro is faster on paper than my 2011 GC Hemi, but it will fall behind the Hemi pretty quickly off the line unless I severely thrashed my manual transmission on the Audi, which is basically how the magazines get the fast times from cars like that, it looks good on paper but has no real benefit in day to day driving. I will be happy to race your 1.3L unless you have the chrome big tube exhaust on the back, which I find very intimidating.
I'll take you on anytime its not snowing. hope your big bad hemi can run at least in the 13s though.... oh right, its not even close

And actually my car has 2 nice shiny 3 inch exhaust pipes exiting the rear of the car, and they shoot flames out on downshifts
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I completely understand why people like their V6's, but since this thread was specifically going after Hemi owners ... I love how V6 owners describe their cars at "Fine", "More Than Adequate", "Able To Cruise at 80MPH", "Peppy", "Powerful Enough", ... None of these descriptions make me wish I had bought the V6.
Ok, then how do you describe the hemi?

Is it fast? Nope
Is it really anything more the mote then adequate? Nope

It's adequate, peppy, and powerful enough just like the V6
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Ok, then how do you describe the hemi?
Fast, powerful, effortless, eats vertical ascents and thin air, easily hauls and tows heavy loads, confident, nice growl, easy to service and mod, proven, capable of 20 mpg highway, sexy, balanced with 5sp trans, perhaps last of the mohicans. All great for a heavy SUV.

Considerations are: thirsty in urban driving, heavier, $1,500 bucks purchase premium, perhaps V6 envy.
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How is barely breaking the 16 sec quarter mile barrier fast or effortless?
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^all in good fun rotor. just tryin to get a rise outta ya.

no one is doing 1/4 mile drags against funny cars or anything, at least not until the tuners and SRT8 are available.

it's all relative to how each user intends to use their 5K SUV. aside from missing a diesel option and the ETC, it's a solid set of engine alternatives.
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