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Old 03-10-2011, 08:20 PM
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

My neighbours WK diesel (albeit with an ECU reflash) would smack my Hemi senseless

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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

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My neighbours WK diesel (albeit with an ECU reflash) would smack my Hemi senseless
diesel's feel fast because of the low rpm torque, I bet a race would show a different story.

Diesel's are great with a flash though. My neighbor has an old Cummings truck and he put an exhaust and a programmer on it and gained like 100hp and 150ft lbs of torque and he gets the same gas mileage as before. It's crazy how bottled up they are from the factory.

I still wouldn't want one in my Jeep though.
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:06 PM
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

I am trading in a Hummer H3 Apha with the V8 (WK2 on Order), and by far the Hemi has a much better response at 0 or 60.....Love the Hummer, but the ride of the V8 WK2 is just far superior....
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

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WOW, what a great thread.

Even my wife who could care less about power liked the hemi a lot more than the v6 when we test drove them. She said it made the vehicle feel smaller, almost car like compared to the v6.

I heard some talk about a diesel and performance - are you joking. Do you really think a diesel will be faster than a hemi or even the v6? Even with 400 ft. lbs. of torque, I would bet the diesel would be sluggish at best. Every diesel I have driven was slow.
Modern automotive style diesels (not the type of diesel used in trucks you are familiar with) are wonderful engines in an SUV or a light truck. They offer performance in the areas that matter for this type of vehicle such as 0-60, 30-60 passing power and towing that gas engines without a lot of displacement can't match. A modern V6 turbo diesel will spank the Hemi's butt in all but possibly 1/4 mile and top end, which BTW are meaningless numbers for an SUV, while getting 20% - 30% better fuel economy.

So no, we aren't joking.
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

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diesel's feel fast because of the low rpm torque, I bet a race would show a different story.

Diesel's are great with a flash though. My neighbor has an old Cummings truck and he put an exhaust and a programmer on it and gained like 100hp and 150ft lbs of torque and he gets the same gas mileage as before. It's crazy how bottled up they are from the factory.

I still wouldn't want one in my Jeep though.
Please google the Audi R10 turbo diesel race car that just keeps winning.....

I would switch to the turbo diesel Jeep in a heartbeat.
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Old 04-05-2011, 12:11 PM
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A modern V6 turbo diesel will spank the Hemi's butt in all but possibly 1/4 mile and top end, which BTW are meaningless numbers for an SUV, while getting 20% - 30% better fuel economy.

So no, we aren't joking.
Dittos. I saw one diesel-powered F-350 running low 12s with traction problems at an NHRA track last year. A turbocharged diesel makes a boatload of torque at all rpms, the kind of torque that can break things .
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

I got pulled on by a new 2 door GMC sierra with the diesel when I had my MKZ. Have nothing but respect for that car/engine.
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

Well I finally actually drove a V8 powered WK2.

In Sport mode, she performed GREAT!

I punched it while getting onto a freeway and suddenly found myself doing almost 90 (that felt like 60).
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

I have a 2.5 Ltr Volvo xc70 twin turbo diesel. Absolutely phenomenal engine. With 440nm torque it pulls like you wouldn't believe. Best engine ive ever driven, close 2nd to my saab 2.3 ltr aero. I've never driven a single turbo diesel that's pulled the same so I've ordered the hemi, hoping that at the very least it would be as good as the diesel due out same time. Problem is the proposed jeep diesel is a single turbo, first generation, unknown quantity... Without a crystal ball no idea what it will be like. Suspect without twin turbo lag could be significant. Italian heritage doesn't sit well either from experience with alfa and fiat. I was also a little disappointed with the hemi... Expected more from 250+ kw... Weight is not that much compared to pajero and landcruiser. Hoping that exhaust and better breathing will bring life to this vehicle. Perception plays a big part... Sound, noise, rpm, vibration, turbo rush all contribute to seat of the pants dyno.
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:17 AM
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

In Oz I have a Ford Territory Turbo Ghia, 4lt straight 6 Turbo. Puts out 245kw/530nm stock and will cane most cars to 100km/h. I am hoping the CRD will have the turbo punch that I enjoy in the TTG.http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...rticleID=19317
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

I havent tried the V8 yet but did have the hemi in a Dodge Durango when I lived in the middle east and lilke that.
Tried the V6 and thought it was underpowered but coming from an Audi Q5 which for an SUV just flies.
Diesels are due in Australia soon so will wait for them although will give the hemi a go this week but by reports so far the crd has great acceleration and also cheaper to run
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Re: Underwhelmed by HEMI

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I had the same experience. I asked for the v6. Dealer kept talking up the v8. I finally agreed to test drive a v8, and it was like-- Seriously? You saw me drive up in a bmw 335i and you expected me to be impressed by this? Awful throttle response and transmission. That said, the v6 is just as bad, but at least I get better MPG saved $1500.
LOL. i had the exact same feelings when i traded in my 335i and drove the hemi and the v6.
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