I hear you. That is why I was very tented to just go for the Hemi. The V8 rumble is very enticing. I would suspect that if most hemi drivers tried the V6 with the new 8spd, they wouldn't be so down on it though. It really is surprising on how much that helped. It really moves quite well when you get on it. Its still not as quick, but it is respectable. They just need to add a supercharged or turbo version to replace that boat anchor.
I just had a 2013 v6 Laredo & I traded it today for a 2012 Overland Summit V8. I had a 2011 V8 & loved the power & once you have it you will not be satisfied with the V6, I wasn't. The gas mileage really isn't that much different if you keep your foot out of it but whats the fun in that all the time!
2014 overland v8 No regrets. I'm very impressed with performance and MPG for such a heavy suv. I live in SF and if I don't get on the gas at every light my MPG is ok but i don't care about gas mileage too much hell my other suv got about the same mpg in the city and worse on the highway best i ever seen on the highway was 17 in my 2008 pathfinder 4x4. This jeep merges me into traffic with confidence before I know it I'm doing 70 without even pushing her hard and it does it all smoothly. I've put it to the floor a couple of times and i was pleasantly surprised so was my friend when it through him back in his seat. Is it a race car no is it the srt8 not even close but for what I need performance wise and utility wise out of a suv it's one of the best around IMO. Only other suv that I think is a true cross shopper is the range rover sport.
2014 V6 - No regrets. Coming from an 04 Grand Cherokee with a V8, don't even notice the difference. Of course that was a much less powerful V8, but when I turn eco mode off and put it in sport, the truck really hauls. I commute 70 miles to work each day and drive to the mountains every weekend to fish or ski. The V6 does the trick quite nicely! The only thing I miss is the growl of the V8
If it was an 04 4.7 I understand why you feel that way. I had one too. You were only looking at 230 hp then. The V8's now are 360 hp with almost 400 lbs of torque.
More than a month ago, I said good-by to my '99 Suburban and purchased a 2014 V6 Limited. I could not get used to the lack of torque in the V6. I thought surely the 8 speed transmission would compensate for it.
About a week ago, I traded the V6 for a 5.7 limited. To me, HUGE difference. In my area, there is a "need" to pass on 2 lane roads often(people driving 45-50 mph on a road posted at 55 that should be at least 60) and the V6 didn't give me much confidence. I also like the feeling of effortlessly pulling out and smoothly accelerating to speed. I thought the V6 was fussy.
I applaud the folks who are happy with the V6: Cost and fuel savings.
More than a month ago, I said good-by to my '99 Suburban and purchased a 2014 V6 Limited. I could not get used to the lack of torque in the V6. I thought surely the 8 speed transmission would compensate for it.
About a week ago, I traded the V6 for a 5.7 limited. To me, HUGE difference. In my area, there is a "need" to pass on 2 lane roads often(people driving 45-50 mph on a road posted at 55 that should be at least 60) and the V6 didn't give me much confidence. I also like the feeling of effortlessly pulling out and smoothly accelerating to speed. I thought the V6 was fussy.
I applaud the folks who are happy with the V6: Cost and fuel savings.
That's funny because the V6 will run circles around a 99 Suburban. That shows how much a placebo affect works. You had in your head that it has less torque because it is a V6. It probably makes more torque than the Suburban did as well. That thing is a snail.
I found an old car and driver test on a 2000 suburban which had the more powerful 6 liter engine. 0-60 in 10.2 seconds. I don't know what seat of the pants feel you where talking about. The V6 jeep could give the '99 a big head start and then blow right by it. Glad you like your Hemi, but don't short change the V6 by saying it felt weaker than a land snail.
I would also bet money that if you put both on a dump, the V6 would probably show more torque. The suburban would not post anywher near 330 at the wheels.
Yesterday, I drove from Salt Lake City up I-80 past Park City. This is one of the longest stretches of steep winding grade on the entire US Interstate system. The V6 engine and 8-speed transmission in my JGC left me smiling. 80 mph most of the way. Slowed only for traffic (why do people drive slowly in the fast lane?), accelerating back to speed quickly. Nice throttle note. Then drove on to Kamas and up a narrow, winding two-lane canyon road to our cabin. I'm sure the V8 would be even more fun, but I averaged 22 mpg. I love my Jeep.
You sir, are at he crossroads of a major life event. Just consider how you will answer the timeless and inevitable question, "Does it have a HEMI?" Responding, "Hell yeah it does!" is the milestone I'm referring to. Choose wisely.
I hope my wife shares that sentiment... she is going from a 2009 WK Limited (5.7 Hemi) to a 2014 of the same model, but the new one has the 3.6 V-6.
It all began with a trip to the dealership (D'Amico C-D-J... a good place with good peepz) for a repair of a "Check TPM System" error message. While waitin\g, we decided to, rather than sit in the waiting room, walk around the lot, and aBlack 2014 Limited caught her eye. She decided to test drive it (I then test drove it faster ), and liked it.
While the V-6 has less HP and torque, that 8-speed ZF really drives home the old saying that the gears can make all the difference in the world. Shifting is "like buttah" and there is enough power to get down and back up again. Lots of electronic and mechanical geekery, but this looks like a winner.
I still have my 2009 Overland (Hemi), which I plan to keep for a while - too much money being spent lately.
Happy with the V6 so far. Drove 1k on MY14 Overland and not a single complaint. Drove interstate, city, winding roads up mountains topping at 7,590 ft high and not a problem accelerating to pass at that altitude and 60-65 mph.
If the V8 torque and power is not needed for towing then is all about bragging or wanting a Hemi. Either case is fine is each persons money and they decide what they spend it on. For those without the need or want the Pentastar is a true workhorse and you won't be disappointed.
v6 here and no regrets at all. Put a little over 4k miles on it and been getting consistent 25-26 mpg on the highway. Has more then exceeded my expectations considering the sticker reads 23 highway. Ride quality and comfort are also great. All in all very pleased.
Few people drive a GC off road so don't need lockers and quadra-drive. Those who do are the die-hards, and would probably want the extra power and torque of the bigger engine anyway.
You might be right or it may be skew opinion to help your point. Either way regardless of what people do with their JGC I was just speaking about why Jeep or Chrysler for that matter make the rear slip diff a V8 or CRD option? The way I see it is just to try to move people into the bigger engine because the wranglers have rear and front lockers with same engine (v6). Another one kind of off for me is why give a Summit V8 a rear slip diff when that vehicle will probably, just my humble opinion, hardly ever see much dirt other than a dirt road. Just the things I wonder from time to time.
Just wait till the USA gets the V6 CRD. We have had it in AU for a few years now, and I can tell you it will be the engine of choice, when you compare all 3.
During the work week, I drive about 18 miles back n' forth to work each day (36 miles total)...both ways in rush hour traffic...50% backroads / 50% highway.
Can't help but smile when I look at the computer readout for average MPG on my V6...about 21 mpg...on regular gas.
I have had the opportunity to drive both a 14' V6 and V8 GC. Both Limiteds w/ 20 inch wheels. Only difference is the hemi has the tow package.
First we bought the V6 Jeep. I thought the power was lacking. Great gas mileage, very quiet, smooth and confident on the road.
About a month and a half later we bought the Hemi GC. The power is great but this engine is no where near as refined as the V6. It's not as smooth, a lot more engine noise in the interior. I know a V8 is louder but I just was expecting this. This Jeep feels very boaty on the road, like an old cadillac. I go back and forth between the two Jeeps and still think this. The hemi also has the clunking rear shock, dealer said it was the license plate. If the ride didnt feel like a cadillac I would probably not hate on the Hemi as much.
Both have vibration on highway - 60 - 70mph.
I do tow, so the hemi is a must but I would have kept my 2500hd and stayed with the V6 as a daily.
I have had the opportunity to drive both a 14' V6 and V8 GC. Both Limiteds w/ 20 inch wheels. Only difference is the hemi has the tow package.
First we bought the V6 Jeep. I thought the power was lacking. Great gas mileage, very quiet, smooth and confident on the road.
About a month and a half later we bought the Hemi GC. The power is great but this engine is no where near as refined as the V6. It's not as smooth, a lot more engine noise in the interior. I know a V8 is louder but I just was expecting this. This Jeep feels very boaty on the road, like an old cadillac. I go back and forth between the two Jeeps and still think this. The hemi also has the clunking rear shock, dealer said it was the license plate. If the ride didnt feel like a cadillac I would probably not hate on the Hemi as much.
Both have vibration on highway - 60 - 70mph.
I do tow, so the hemi is a must but I would have kept my 2500hd and stayed with the V6 as a daily.
Mine doesn't vibrate at all, but I disagree about the V8 power. It's miserable. This engine should be MUCH faster and much more responsive for being the size it is. Throttle lag is horrible and 0-60 is like a fat woman with an ass full if ho-hos. I'm going to have to put a supercharger in it just so I don't get smoked by teenagers driving Chevy Cobalts with those ridiculous fart cans on them. Yes, this happened. Horrible. I don't generally go around racing, I'm an adult on city streets, but seriously....getting killed by a crappy little supercharged 4 banger is embarrassing.
I 100% agree with you.The pentastar is very good. If you compare the performance off the line between the 5.7 and the 3.6 its not that different. Or 0-60, not that big of a difference. I have a towing package on my 2013 JGC Ltd 4x4 but will never tow anything. I drive 20-22m per year and thats why I got the 3.6 Would I like the small Hemi? Hell yes, LOL !!! But with my situation the 3.6 is more than adequate and I am very happy with it. That 5 speed is antiquated.
You would feel the difference when you stomp on it doing 50-60 mph hemi vs. V6. Especially with my HemiFever tune. The V6 will make a lot of noise, but but that is about it.
I have a 3.7 05 GC with 95k. I just did a couple sensor changes and re-gapped the plugs (OEM NGK), switched her to synth at like 80k, few things wrong with her but overall drives perfect. WOW once i got the motor where i want her this v-6 picks up pretty good. power is all at the low end and you gotta rev it up to get it to go, just like any other car. i love the trans in it as its super responsive and smooth as ever. yea sure sometimes it feels slow but then i just try to bring the revs up more off the line and she drives great. only power lacking is highway when you are cruising cause obvi there is no low end to grab, but that what gears are for lol. :thumbsup:
Test drive both models, if you dont mind spending more on the V8 Hemi go for it, and also depends on what your using it for both can Tow, the Hemi can tow more though, if it speed you want why not go for a sedan or the SRT8
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