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The GC weighs over 5,000. The V6 8spd combo works well. I agree if I was doing a lot of towing though. You have to consider that what is slow today, would have been quicker than everything else 15 years ago. The V6 is now around 8 seconds or less to 60 where the Escalade in 2002 was 8.5. It was considered fast for an SUV.
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Old 05-26-2013, 08:50 AM
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

There are a number of GCs with curb weight under 5,000, even a 4wd Overland (why is an Overland heavier than a Summit ?)
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The V8 plays a big part of that extra weight though. The V8 is definitely more powerful and has quicker acceleration, but still isn't "quick". Probably the only need for it would be if you did a lot of towing. I believe there is only a second or less between the 0-60 and 1/4 mile figures now with the nee transmission. I've read that one test got 7.5 for the V6 and the 6spd V8 was low 7's. I imagine the 8spd version might be high 6's on a good day. Also, at above 5,000', the Hemi struggles more than the V6 making the playing field closer. I don't have personal experience with that, just based on what has been posted on here. The gas mileage difference and use of regular gas made the Hemi obsolete for me. I know the Hemi can run regular, but it would be down on power which negates the positive.
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John, hit the nail on the head sir. Besides , not saying you do john, but who gives a *bleep* about the 0-60 time on an SUV? Even if you have an srt. I think those things are too misconstrued nowadays. Is like the words "Genius" or "Hero" they get used too often in our times.
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

If you want economy, go for the V6. If you want towing power, go for the hemi, or some day the crd. If you want acceleration out of the hole, go for the SRT. I still find it strange that people are discussing 0-60 times pertaining to Jeeps. I guess I'm old school, but Jeeps were always about being able to go anywhere, not about how fast you could get there. But then, that's just me.
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That is pretty much the point papote. The Hemi is pretty dated. I'd rather have a 4.8 V8 version of the 3.6. Even the SRT is not that quick anymore. High 13's in the 1/4 is about what most cars and SUV's do with the optional engine upgrade. Most of the performance SUV's are in the mid 12's. I know the SRT is cheaper and looks cool. But its not that much cheaper than an 8cyl. BMW, Mercedes or Porsche. They are all just as quick or quicker. Chrysler needs a new dohc V8 and have it supercharged or twin turbos for the SRT.
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There are a number of GCs with curb weight under 5,000, even a 4wd Overland (why is an Overland heavier than a Summit ?)
My 2012 Overland 4X4 V8 (non OR pkg) also weighed more than my current 2014 Summit 4X4 V8. The 2012 weighed 5131 lbs and the 2014 weighs 5086 lbs. Can't figure out where the 45 lbs is since the Summit has QuadraDrive II which adds the ELSD to the rear axle. I know the electric solenoid doesn't weigh much for the QDII, but still don't know where the added weight is on the Overland over the Summit.
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John, hit the nail on the head sir. Besides , not saying you do john, but who gives a *bleep* about the 0-60 time on an SUV? Even if you have an srt. I think those things are too misconstrued nowadays. Is like the words "Genius" or "Hero" they get used too often in our times.



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That is pretty much the point papote. The Hemi is pretty dated. I'd rather have a 4.8 V8 version of the 3.6. Even the SRT is not that quick anymore. High 13's in the 1/4 is about what most cars and SUV's do with the optional engine upgrade. Most of the performance SUV's are in the mid 12's. I know the SRT is cheaper and looks cool. But its not that much cheaper than an 8cyl. BMW, Mercedes or Porsche. They are all just as quick or quicker. Chrysler needs a new dohc V8 and have it supercharged or twin turbos for the SRT.
20-30k cheaper is significantly cheaper then a bmw , mercedes, Porsche SUV. Comparing top of the line vs top of the line.
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Comparing equally equipped. The SRT is no where near the topline of the others. Go build a ML 550 or a X5 with the V8. They both have twin turbo V8s that will run quicker than the SRT but are more luxurious than it. Nothing to knock jeep, just the outdated pushrod, hemi headed V8.
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

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Anytime my friend. The Z06 weighs about 700 lbs less than your Aston and stock produces 505 hp with 0-6 times of 3.7 compared to your 4 seconds....and who said mine was stock lol. Safe driving my friend. But I also love my GC!
Just to stay OT, I'm going with the V-6. Thanks for all the great info.

.............and, my $'s on the Z06. I love AM's but I put my supercharged XKR Jag against the Z06 and it wasn't even close. I had to step out of my car to see if I was even moving.
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:27 PM
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I like the fact that the V6 is a lot lighter, higher specific output and wide flat torque band. The center of gravity sits far back in the engine bay to achieve near perfect balance in this vehicle, yet the back of the engine is still accessible for routine maintenance.
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