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Old 09-02-2014, 03:04 PM
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

I didn't even test drive the six banger. Thought about the diesel but said nah and test drove the hem twice. one was 4x2 and the second 4x4.
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:26 PM
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

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I didn't even test drive the six banger. Thought about the diesel but said nah and test drove the hem twice. one was 4x2 and the second 4x4.
The diesel has tons of torque and pulls hard like the hemi in daily driving...actually feels more willing to go at partial throttle. I'm sure at WOT the hemi is king...but thats not my normal mode of operation! I test drove both the v6 and Hemi...bought the diesel. All the engine options are exceptional in the GC for 2014 IMO.
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

Hemi and will always opt for the V8/larger engine if given the option. I drive a ton (24k+ miles/year) and the hemi makes the car enjoyable, particularly when combined with the air suspension. Have to admit, interested and nervous at the same time about what will happen in the next model update. All the other manufacturers are discontinuing their V8 due to new fuel economy standards, so good chance the Hemi's days are also numbered. Will probably end up with a twin-turbo V6 or something, which may be better or worse depending on implementation.

An example of what I'm afraid of is what happened with the Mercedes M Class. They used to offer the ML550 for a good price, which was a turbo V8. Now for the same price you end up with the ML400, which is far crappier. Thanks Obama.

Point is that this is a big opportunity/threat to Jeep: they have to end up with a high performance option in an off-road capable model (not SRT) after their new refresh.
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

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Hemi and will always opt for the V8/larger engine if given the option. I drive a ton (24k+ miles/year) and the hemi makes the car enjoyable, particularly when combined with the air suspension. Have to admit, interested and nervous at the same time about what will happen in the next model update. All the other manufacturers are discontinuing their V8 due to new fuel economy standards, so good chance the Hemi's days are also numbered. Will probably end up with a twin-turbo V6 or something, which may be better or worse depending on implementation.

An example of what I'm afraid of is what happened with the Mercedes M Class. They used to offer the ML550 for a good price, which was a turbo V8. Now for the same price you end up with the ML400, which is far crappier. Thanks Obama.

Point is that this is a big opportunity/threat to Jeep: they have to end up with a high performance option in an off-road capable model (not SRT) after their new refresh.
I'm with you.

It was Never a question of V6 vs. V8. The Only question (in my mind) was WHICH V8 (SRT or 5.7L).

And it was the removal of the V8 option from the 5th Generation Toyota 4Runner that caused me to switch to Jeep. When looking for a new vehicle, I also looked at the Mercedes ML lineup. The 550 looked good but its gone now.

So other then premium brands (Porsche & Range Rover), the number of V8 powered SUVs has and will probably continue to shrink.
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

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I'm with you.

It was Never a question of V6 vs. V8. The Only question (in my mind) was WHICH V8 (SRT or 5.7L).

And it was the removal of the V8 option from the 5th Generation Toyota 4Runner that caused me to switch to Jeep.
I too considered the SRT but financially was not going to be a smart choice to go that route. So i went with the 5.7. I also was looking at the 4Runner, they are nice but noticed there is no V8 option. Same thing with the Explorer, MDX.
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

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I'm with you.

It was Never a question of V6 vs. V8. The Only question (in my mind) was WHICH V8 (SRT or 5.7L).

And it was the removal of the V8 option from the 5th Generation Toyota 4Runner that caused me to switch to Jeep. When looking for a new vehicle, I also looked at the Mercedes ML lineup. The 550 looked good but its gone now.

So other then premium brands (Porsche & Range Rover), the number of V8 powered SUVs has and will probably continue to shrink.
We're long lost siblings. I considered the same cars and also picked Jeep specifically because of the V8. I would have gone for the SRT if they were equally capable offroad.

Now that you mentioned Porsche, the Cayenne S is going turbo V6 too instead of the V8. Even premium brand, you have to step up to the top models for the V8 at around $100k. For Mercedes you have to step up to the M AMG.
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

Next time a twin turbo V6 Explorer or a supercharged Range Rover or VW/AUDI puts your Hemi to shame, just go ahead and admit that the days of V8 engines are gone.
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

Twin turbo V8 now that would be exciting
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

Wish I was financially stable for a SRT I have a v6 no regrets but after driving the 6.4 SRT there was no way of getting the same feel with the v6 :/
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

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Next time a twin turbo V6 Explorer or a supercharged Range Rover or VW/AUDI puts your Hemi to shame, just go ahead and admit that the days of V8 engines are gone.
The RR that puts the hemi to shame is a supercharged V8, not the supercharged V6. I would certainly welcome a supercharged V8. The supercharged V6 on the RRS gets times similar to the hemi, as does the VW/AUDI. I could live with a supercharged V6 assuming the performance increases rather than decreases. What I can't live with is a solution along the lines of what Toyota and Acura did which is getting rid of the V8 and just offering a smaller V6 with crappier performance, or what Mercedes did which is getting rid of a superior turbo V8 engine and selling a lower performing V6 turbo for the same amount.
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Re: V-6 or V-8, regrets?

I have moved from a 2005 TJ with 4.0L, to a 2008 JK with the vastly underpowered 3.9L, then to a 2012 JK with the 3.6L, and finally a 2014 WK2 with the 3.6L and 8 speed transmission. I can say personally it has gotten better each step. I have put over 20K miles on my WK2 in 9 months. IMO The 3.6L has great overall MPG and performance. Please keep in mind that I can't speak of it 3.6L before 2014 without the 8 speed though.
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Next time a twin turbo V6 Explorer or a supercharged Range Rover or VW/AUDI puts your Hemi to shame, just go ahead and admit that the days of V8 engines are gone.
To be replaced by wimpy V6's that sleep in the left lane, block on ramps, and seem to be driven largely by those who are blissfully and willfully unaware of alternatives to superchargers and small displacements that in the real world tend to offer less mileage for the same load factors as the larger V8s with multiple displacement technology even though the smaller buzzbombs have direct injection, uninformed protagonists, and boring marketing campaigns.

Translation, check out a review of the Hemi RAM 1500 vs the Ford as far as capability and real world mileage.

This same engine type war, fought mostly by the uninformed, came about during the first gas crisis. Some folks bought into it and got stuck with vehicles that not even Midnight Auto Supply Ltd would take off their hands.
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