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Re: Volant CAI

No I just removed the engine cover to clean up under there. It's back on now. Yeah you can remove the emblem it's just 2 screws. And yes it will just be a raised black outline. I might be doing that myself

I'm loving the new response out of the throttle with the CAI. And the sounds is awesome.
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Re: Volant CAI

Fascinating! Looks like the snorkle and bottom half of the air box is left in place, and it's basically a sheet metal shield with some weatherstripping to seal it to the hood! If that's really the case, the Volant is a better solution, IMHO.
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Re: Volant CAI

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Fascinating! Looks like the snorkle and bottom half of the air box is left in place, and it's basically a sheet metal shield with some weatherstripping to seal it to the hood! If that's really the case, the Volant is a better solution, IMHO.
Not only that, but if that tube is metal then won't there be heat soak issues like bwoody?
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Not a fan of that. The top reason why I went with the volant is because they offered a dry filter. Oil filters have no place under your hood IMO
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Re: Volant CAI

Thanks guys for all your time and research on the topic of CAI. I ordered mine today from a new Volant recommended online vendor for $273 (including filter upgrade to 100K dry and shipping) which is similar to other CAI's I have ordered for some of my other vehicles. I will post me thoughts and experience once I get it installed and tested.
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Re: Volant CAI

The Mopar intake looks like a joke, it appears to be 3" tubing. These Hemis really need 4". Even my modded 4.7 saw gains from 4" tubing.
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Got mine today. Snapped some pictures of the unit and the finished install. About to go fill up the tank and romp around. I will let you know how it sounds and feels later today.
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Got mine today. Snapped some pictures of the unit and the finished install. About to go fill up the tank and romp around. I will let you know how it sounds and feels later today.
That is so nice!
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The stock intake per terminator2 flows 580 cfm. At standard temperature and pressure 32* @ 14.5 psi (sea level) spinning at 5800 rpm (factory red line) the Hemi needs 578.99 CFM. So it appears to me that unless one raises the operating RPM or increases the volumetric efficiency then we are all just really wasting our money. I believe that the hemi's true upper limit operating range is between 6300 (conservative) and 6800 rpm. I came to the conclusion of this by doing some simple auto math based off of the components the engine is made of. I believe that if the Hemi's piston speed is kept between 3800 fpm and 4000 fpm then the engine should not let go. I do believe that running piston speeds over 3800 fpm will cause premature wear on the motor. If we take (3800fpm x6)/ stroke 3.58 = 6368RPM (4000fpm x6)/stroke 3.58=6703 RPM.
At 6368 RPM the Hemi will require 635.69 CFM and at 6703 RPM the Hemi will require 669.22 CFM @ standard temp and pressure an increase in 56.7 CFM and 90.2 CFM respectivly . My point is this. Until the codes are cracked and we can raise the rpm limit to the Hemi's true performance limts instead of being stuck with the ultra conservative factory limits. Than we are all wasting our money including myself with the K&N style Drop in filter. Now this is all based off of top end performance.

There is however a potential for across the board performance increases at lower RPM's due to the after market CAI tubes being less restrictive at lower rpm levels. So again unless your increasing the operating rpm or increasing volumetric efficiency you don't need more CFM you just need a smoother path to deliver the CFM. This is why a lot of guys running drop ins do not feel any performance change unless they have made some other mod like a chip, and why guys with bone stock systems feel a change in performance with the CAI.
Those airflow calculations seems very high given the output of this engine. Volant intake looks nice. I would like to see someone do 3 dyno pulls of a dynojet with the stock airbox then put on the Volant intake and do 3 more pulls. Average the 3 stock pulls and the 3 pulls with the intake and overlay the HP and torque curves to see if there are any significant gains. Butt dyno never tells the correct story. My dad has had 5 hemi rams from 2003-2010. His first two were SCSB 2wd with 3.92 gears and LSD. One was an 03 with a Magnaflow muffler and a K&N drop in filter the other was an 06 with a aero turbine muffler, K&N intake, and a hypertech programmer. I used to log his trucks 0-60 just for the heck of it and I found that not only was the 03 faster by half a second or more 0-60 but the 06 was consistantly quicker by a few tenths 0-60 with the stock intake down to the filter vs the K&N intake tune or no tune. MY 06 GMC 5.3 was faster with the stock airbox vs the airaid intake I had. My 02 Dakota was faster with the stock airbox vs the airaid intake I had. The list goes on.In my tuning experience unless you are running forced induction, a cam, heads, LTs, etc that often times the stock airbox does just as well if not better than an aftermarket intake. Sound wise though nothing beats the sound of a V8 inhaling though an open cone filter IMO. I hope this intake proves me wrong but manufacturers have a history of showing up to 30 whp gains that were never replicated by anyone who bought and dynoed those same intakes. All that being said the Volant intake looks 10 times better than Mopars and the ones the airaid and K&N tend to build.
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Those airflow calculations seems very high given the output of this engine.
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LOL have you driven it yet? I do have to admit it looks a lot nicer than K&N's intakes or Mopars or AEMs or Airaids. I give it an A+ for looks and apparent quality. Performance wise it should give good throttle response like the stock intake although peak power and the overall curves are likely going to be the same as stock. One thing I can say for sure is the factory intake mani and exhaust manis we got shafted with makes a 30 bhp difference vs the hemi ram. The biggest gain in response I have felt from any of the mods I have done was when I ported the intake mani. With or without the 4" intake I made the throttle response is a lot crisper.
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My eyes are bleeding, but the Hemi is gonna be breathin'!
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