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Re: Why 5.7 horsepower discrepancy?

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In 2013, the Rams went to electric power steering, which netted another 5 HP. So as of 2013, all Rams (at least the ones with the 8-speed transmission, possibly all) with the 5.7 Hemi are at 395 instead of the original 390.

And as others stated, the exhaust is reportedly the culprit in the WK2s.
According to the Ram site, the 5.7 in the 2016 Ram 2500 Laramie makes 383hp (but yes 6-sp).

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True. But it's not on a 'truck' platform either so...
Its an suv
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Its an suv

Yeah buddy, you beat that dead dog
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Can't argue intelligently about this, but everyone here who fits aftermarket exhaust and CAI to their GC reports little hp gain, just better sound. So if you're right, RAMs must be making up to 35hp more mostly from a very header-like exhaust manifold design and possibly a more efficient intake manifold. Obviously the GC engine bay is tighter, but there must be some room for improvement.
Yes that is what I'm saying!

An aftermarket exhaust & CAI isn't going to make up the added HP from a better breathing OEM intake and a better flowing OEM exhaust manifold that just won't fit in a Grand Cherokee engine bay. That's before you can add even more HP w/aftermarket headers and a tune on a Ram truck equipped with a Hemi. I believe electric P/S pumps are coming for all the 2016 Hemi equipped Grands that should add a little more HP.

If Jeep could produce the same HP numbers as the RAM pickups I'm sure they would. Hood and engine bay dimensions are what's limiting them.
That's not my opinion, it's just the facts! Nothing to argue about.
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While the term crossover is used somewhat loosely, it most commonly refers to a taller version of a car, as others have stated here, not because it borrows elements from a body-on-frame vehicle.
I don't know if I can agree. Now, if it is in Wikipedia, it must be right or at least generally accepted even if wrongly, by lots of people. But let's dwell on Subaru for a few seconds. By the "taller version of a car" is the Outback a cross-over version of the Legacy ? I have never heard the Outback, most definitely not the 2005 - 2009 version of that vehicle referred to as a cross-over, as compared to the Legacy that I have.

Is this a cross-over?



2005 Subaru Outback sedan :-) Yes they did exist, as a taller version of the Legacy sedan. And yes they also existed as the ubiquitous station wagons.
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Re: Why 5.7 horsepower discrepancy?

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Which he should!

The Jeep Grand Cherokee is not a crossover. It is an SUV.

One of the other aspects usually attributed to crossovers is that they are not off road capable; specifically they lack a 2-speed transfer case (no low range). Because of this, crossovers are also often called "soft-roaders".

In case you did know, the WK2 is very off road capable.

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In case you did know, the WK2 is very off road capable.
Yep I'm aware.
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Fords EcoBoost has different outputs for the truck vs suv, too.

You should be content with what the Hemi has in the GC, after all Chrysler is the only brand that offers a V8 in a crossover. Specifically without having to step up to a performance model.

Shop around for any other crossover and you're stuck with a V6 that has output of around 290hp.
Pretty much the reason I bought one.
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Which he should!

The Jeep Grand Cherokee is not a crossover. It is an SUV.

One of the other aspects usually attributed to crossovers is that they are not off road capable; specifically they lack a 2-speed transfer case (no low range). Because of this, crossovers are also often called "soft-roaders".

In case you did know, the WK2 is very off road capable.

Not mine. I see your point tho. No dog in this fight. I for one would take a definite answer from jeep. Then it's whatever, I don't care lol
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