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Re: Yup, Mopar 3.6 CAI is here ;)

How's it going with the CAI, 4th? Still loving it? How about you Jaxon217? Any pics of yours installed? I'm just wondering about the engine cover not fitting afterwards properly.

Seems this is a good option for us with the 3.6 - What else is there besides this and Airaid? not including drop-ins like K&N.

Is there a tune out for the 3.6L Pentastar yet? I see a couple for the Hemi
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:48 PM
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Re: Yup, Mopar 3.6 CAI is here ;)

Did you need to mention anything special for the $302 price ? - checked online and J4J's price is now $380 +shipping for WK2
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Re: Yup, Mopar 3.6 CAI is here ;)

BTW I think I understand the fit problem. I suspect the reason it swings toward the passenger fender from the throttle body is to clear the cam phasers and wiring. On the factory inlet tube there are two molded recesses for the cover (picture is of the bottom of the tube where it goes over the cam cover. These are probably missing on the CAI. Does it have any ?

Incidently, a 2 - 2.5" inlet tube would probably be plenty, a 3.6 liter engine even at 6500 rpm doesn't suck that much air (2.329" was enough for a FI 327 in a Corvette to wind to the moon and that was an eight - six has a much smoother flow.).

So for a CAI for a 3.6 I would want a thermal wrapped 2.5" pipe or maybe 3" with smooth reliefs for the cam cover. Have to be real careful not to rub or pinch any wiring.
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Re: Yup, Mopar 3.6 CAI is here ;)

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How's it going with the CAI, 4th? Still loving it? How about you Jaxon217? Any pics of yours installed? I'm just wondering about the engine cover not fitting afterwards properly.
I'm close to ordering the CAI but I have concerns about fit and trimming the engine cover too.

I'd really like to see images of installed intakes, thanks for any help.
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Re: Yup, Mopar 3.6 CAI is here ;)

Was that video of a V6 or V8?

Sounded like a V8
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Re: Yup, Mopar 3.6 CAI is here ;)

same question as Sibze, if that was the V8 or the V6 CAI & magnaflow exhaust? Two questions... does anyone have a sound clip or review of how the CAI sounds in just a V6 (no other mods)? And 2..any update or news for any name-brand making a fit for the 2014 v6? I had the volant in the 2011 hemi and it sounded awesome.

Like someone else posted, I never install CAI's for the gains or losses...just sound. I've since traded in for 2014 v6 (commute to work increased....every mpg counts now) so I'm looking fwd to installing a CAI as soon as it hits the market.
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Re: Yup, Mopar 3.6 CAI is here ;)

IMNSHO the problem with the factory inlet "hose" is the two big furnaces/resonators and not the tube itself. Also the thermoplastic is a reasonable insulator compared to metal (but wrapping is better). The intake air is coming over the radiator shroud and the stock air filter is fine for a V6.

The problem is that the tube is so long and airflow so low that even at 45 mph (1300 rpm) you are going to get enough heat from the 203F radiator to raise the IAT by 10-15 degrees. To get the maximum benefit we need to find a way to run the engine cooler: 185-190F which is going to take an unobtainium 180F thermostat. (If anyone knows of a source for a 180 or 185 for a Pentastar (stock is a 195 that does not seem to get full open until 205ish), please let me know).

Bottom line to get IAT under 100F (and have it stay there, not just at WOT) on a 80F day is going to take more than just a CAI, the whole engine compartment needs to be cooler.

ps for a DIY CAI take a 68022170AF "hose" (comes with clamps and a new IAT sensor), 1.5" Dorman rubber expansion plug, Blue silicone sealer, two Fernco 3" rubber sleeves with clamps, 8" of 3" dia. CPVC (PVC is only rated to 140F), a sawzall, a file, and costs less than a Benjamin. Nice part is that it fits nicely under the engine cover (helps if you leave the little resonator in place with the stud for the engine cover - is not going to have any real effect and provides a mount).

Disconecting and opening up the furnace over the passenger side bank (what you need the 1.5" expansion plug and the silicon seal for) keeps the pad that provides clearance of the "hose" over the passenger cam phazer and wiring). Make sure to dress all surfaces and blow/wash out any pieces of plastic. You really do not want little pieces of plastic in the clean air path.

Keep in mind that this is an unsanctioned mod and could affect your warrenty.
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Padgett, I was thinking the same thing about just using some cpvc or some abs. Plenty of parts available to make it do what you need. My other thought about the heat was to switch the filter to be on the passenger side somewhere. This way you have a shorter air path and no crossing over the front of the engine.
In regards to the size of the intake compared to a 327 V8, the V6 Pentastar would blow the doors off of any factory stock 60's era 327. Even the FI. Remember that the Corvette only weighed about 3200 lbs. Imagine if a V6 Challenger lost 1,000 lbs. It would be running low 13's all day long.
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Re: Yup, Mopar 3.6 CAI is here ;)

Mine was 2910 lbs with a full roll cage/chassis stiffener. Problem with the stock FI was the annulus that limited it to about 520 cfm. A few mods, reject nozzles (too rich), Z-28 "offroad" cam (designed for dual quads and a cross ram), Delcotronic ignition, headers/side pipes (with crossover) & it would wind to the moon.

Funny thing was when protested for pulling A/P 'vettes down the straight the FI would just be unbolted and set aside as they dived inside. Other than "too much cam" (legal) everything measured stock, not even overbored. Lotsa head scratching.

ps 3.6 has the same stroke as a 327.
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Sounds like lots of fun. I wish I still had my first car. It was a '69 Firebird 400. It would be great to have today's technology to apply to it. Long time ago though.
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Re: Yup, Mopar 3.6 CAI is here ;)

Mine was a XK140MC Jag. Wanted a TR3 but Jag was cheaper. Then I found out why. Still have a thing for oil pressure.

Have always liked DOHC 6's, XK-150S (second car) also had 4 wheel disk brakes and "E-type" (later) independant front and rear suspension. Just have come full circle with WK2.

Would make an interesting advrt. Jag E-type and a Grand Cherokee "What do these cars have in common ?" but would probably be politically incorrect since Jag is an Indian company now. Maybe a full rally Alpha GTV6 ?
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Here's my k&n filter. Fits much better with no modification if the engine cover!

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