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Old 05-23-2016, 01:59 AM
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18" Wheel and Tire Discussion Thread

I like 18" wheels. I'm having a hell of a time finding out anything about them where 90% of the tire and wheel threads on here deal with 20's. Lets talk about factory and aftermarket. Offsets and Backspacing. What's stock, what's just tucked, and what sticks out past the wheel opening. The 20's have thread after thread. It's time for us superior humans with 18's to have their own thread. 20 guys will be given noogies and shown the door. Pluses, minuses, mistakes made in the past, huge success stories. Tell it all. I also want to talk tire makes and sizes. Charts showing what the metric designations means in terms of how tall and how wide are they? Different tread patterns, road noise, off road capability, looks. I'm old school I always dealt with 14x36 12x33 11.50x31 all on 15" rims. You young whipper snappers have to help me out.

Here's what I'm personally looking for. An 18x8 with an offset that will move the wheel toward the outside about an inch. Tire wise, I'd like to stay about an inch taller than stock but with as much width as the truck can handle. I live out in the boonies. It's 20 miles to anywhere. When I do go offroad it's on loose gravel or loose dirt mountain trails, or I go to cattle farms where it would seem floatation would matter much, much more than ground clearance. I'm not digging ruts in a man's pasture. If I start spinning I"ll go get his tractor way before I'm grounded. Heck if I need extra ground clearance I can just go to ORII with Quadra Lift.I want more width more than I want more height although an inch taller wouldn't hurt. Taller tires are like a higher gear. I don't want to lose any more bottom end torque than I have to with that 3.6L.

Here's the wheels I really like. Not sure what the numbers mean. 18x8 with 30 offset. Where will that put me exactly? An inch out from stock, two inches? I want to stay just tucked and very close to centered in the wheelhouse side to side. Just pushed slightly out like a 1" spacer on a stock wheel. These are the wheels I'm looking at right now. They seem really light weight.
Amazon.com: American Racing AR899 Series Silver With Machined Face Wheel (18x8"/5x127mm): Automotive
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I'm going silver due to all the chrome on my 2011 overland and I'm not ambitious enough to remove or black out all that chrome. Black wheels are available if you prefer them.

OK lets here about your 18" wheels and tires. Maybe we'll have some fun along the way and some of us might accidently learn something (Like me for instance). I'm going to try to do both.

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Old 05-23-2016, 04:35 PM
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18" Wheel and Tire Discussion Thread

www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp has a very useful calculator/visualizer

+30 will give you about an inch more offset than the stock +56 (56-30=26mm=1")

265/60 is stock size, right at 30.5" - going to 265/65 should give you another inch (31.5") and wouldn't run into rubbing concerns. I think you can go to 275 (32.1") but may get close on rubbing without a lift and/or with quadra lift at entry/exit


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Re: 18" Wheel and Tire Discussion Thread

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www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp has a very useful calculator/visualizer

+30 will give you about an inch more offset than the stock +56 (56-30=26mm=1")

265/65 is stock size, right at 30.5" - going to 265/60 should give you another inch (31.5") and wouldn't run into rubbing concerns. I think you can go to 275 (32.1") but may get close on rubbing without a lift and/or with quadra lift at entry/exit


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I believe you have that information backwards. 265/60 is stock, and a 65 series tire will be the "taller" one.



Along the line of the OP's thoughts, I originally bought my GC for winter usage, so I sold the OE Michelins, and replaced them with a set of Nokian WGRs, in the OE 265/60/18 size. Nokian claims that these are "all weather" tires, but with a strong winter performance bias. After driving them through last winter, I'll vouch for their performance in snow.

Here's my quandary....I didn't plan on driving the GC in the summer as much as I have been, so A) I'm putting more miles on these Nokians, which will wear them, and diminish their snow carving ability much sooner; and B) although they handle well, I'm sure that there are better tires for dry pavement handling.

Yes, this GC will NEVER handle as well as my Corvette, but I'm pretty sure the Nokians aren't exactly helping me in this area. I recently took a 700 mile road trip, and on day 1, the weather was very calm, and all was well. The second day, the return trip, it was rather windy, and I was all over the road. Yes, I'm aware that I was driving a tall, 5000 pound vehicle, not the greatest thing to have on a windy day. However, I'm sure that different tires would have helped out.

That's my "back story"..........

So, despite my initial desire to avoid dragging a set of HEAVY wheels and tires up and down from my basement, twice a year, I'm considering a second set of wheel/tires for my GC.

I've been looking at Enkei wheels for several reasons. First, I had a set of their wheels on a Firebird, back in the 80s, and I found them to be a high quality wheel. Secondly, they appear to have a couple of wheels that are "hub centric" for Jeep GCs, with a 71.6 MM centerbore. My only disappointment, is that their widest wheel is only 8.5" wide. I was hoping to find something in the 9-9.5" range, as a wider wheel will provide a better base for a wide tire.

In conclusion, anybody here have any experience with Enkei wheels on a GC?
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Re: 18" Wheel and Tire Discussion Thread

Corrected the aspect ratio in my comments - thanks for catching that


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Re: 18" Wheel and Tire Discussion Thread

I put a set of 265/65/18 on my 2011 and loved them. I'm planning to do the same on my '15 before winter hits. The guys at the tire shop were convinced they were too big (they did look huge next to the worn out OEM's), but they went on w/o a hitch - no rubbing, no issues whatsoever.
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Re: 18" Wheel and Tire Discussion Thread

A couple of pointers from my research and experience.
  1. Pay attention to the weight limits on the wheels. Get ones at least as sturdy as stock to preserve load carrying capacity.
  2. Look for wheels with drains around the hub center to the outside of the hub contact surface to avoid serious hub center rust problems.

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Old 05-25-2016, 03:17 PM
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Re: 18" Wheel and Tire Discussion Thread

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www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp has a very useful calculator/visualizer

+30 will give you about an inch more offset than the stock +56 (56-30=26mm=1")

265/60 is stock size, right at 30.5" - going to 265/65 should give you another inch (31.5") and wouldn't run into rubbing concerns. I think you can go to 275 (32.1") but may get close on rubbing without a lift and/or with quadra lift at entry/exit


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That's an awesome configurator. (If that's a word lol.) I've been playing with it. I can configure stock tire/wheel on one side and right next to it configure wheels and tires that I like. Easy to see what's what and take a tape measure out to the truck. It even gives an estimate as to the changes even in speedo changes with the larger tire. Highly recommend anyone looking at wheels (of for the hell of it) to check out bandwagn's link. Thanks for posting that.
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Re: 18" Wheel and Tire Discussion Thread

Something I just came upon, from the 'Corvette Forum', regarding Chinese wheels..........


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Re: 18" Wheel and Tire Discussion Thread

Here you go on a +34 offset

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Just about perfect - 265/65 would fit fine, but the 265/60s mean I don't have to fret about the spare

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Those look great. My 2011 is Natural Green. It's a wild color for sure. Silver wheels go good with it.
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Re: 18" Wheel and Tire Discussion Thread

For the tires, I am a huge fan of the DuraTrac's. I have them on my RAM and they are well behaved on road, awesome off road, and wear pretty good. In the snow, they are hands down the best tire I have ever had. When I bought mine I looked at the KO2's, but they were a lot heavier for same the size tire (like 10-15% ). I didn't like the idea of that much more unsprung weight so I went with the Goodyears.

The Goodyear All Terrain with Kevlar is a good milder version of the DuraTrac if you spend more time on road. That is what my 2016 with ORAII came with. They seem like a good alternative if you want something less aggressive.

I don't have any experience with Nokian's you mentioned.
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Re: 18" Wheel and Tire Discussion Thread

I'm interested in the Michelin Defender LTX M/S in either 265/60 or 265/65. I drive on road most of the time (85-90%), but need good sneakers for Northeast winters. Anyone had experience with these tires? Cheers!!
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