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Re: 2015 WK2 Summit Poor damping

Don't think any of them claim they do, but as far as I've read, the rear QL shocks are just the standard load leveling shocks. You have to get new brackets to use non-load leveling shocks, but then you can buy OME or Bilsteins.

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Re: 2015 WK2 Summit Poor damping

Load levelling shocks on a potentiometer levelled full airbag system? I'm not sure that would make much sense...
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Re: 2015 WK2 Summit Poor damping

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Know of any aftermarket rear shocks that will fit QL? I can't seem to find any.
Yeah exactly... and simply installing whatever fits isn't likely to satisfy the somewhat unique requirements of dampening an airbag. They don't behave the same as coils... appropriate valving would be necessary.

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Re: 2015 WK2 Summit Poor damping

Has anyone been successful at improving the steering being so sensitive to road imperfections I've been to 2 dealers and both think that my GC drives nice , although they agree the steering shouldn't
Respond to every little bump

I'm going to try and get then to replace tires with s different brand
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:03 PM
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Re: 2015 WK2 Summit Poor damping

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Has anyone been successful at improving the steering being so sensitive to road imperfections I've been to 2 dealers and both think that my GC drives nice , although they agree the steering shouldn't
Respond to every little bump

I'm going to try and get then to replace tires with s different brand
Like Michelin tour HP




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I think the steering wheel feedback on some of the bumps is just a characteristic of the jeep. I have the Tour HPs and I like them but there is still some steering wheel feed back.
also just fyi the Tour HPs are on their way out and being replaced by a new tire called the Michelin Premier LTX also the Michelin Defender LTX M/S are now available in the stock 20 size. The Michelin Defender LTX M/S is a great all around tire and will be my next tire on this jeep.
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Re: 2015 WK2 Summit Poor damping

Well I finally pulled the trigger and ordered a set of Pirelli Scorpion Verde Plus XLs. I get them installed Friday. Replacing my Forteras at 6500 miles seems a waste, but I really can't stand the bounce any more.


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Well I finally pulled the trigger and ordered a set of Pirelli Scorpion Verde Plus XLs. I get them installed Friday. Replacing my Forteras at 6500 miles seems a waste, but I really can't stand the bounce any more.


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That sounds great. Keep us posted on your driving impressions once they have been installed for awhile. I was considering these same tires as a replacement for the Forteras. Have also been looking at the Michelin LTX/Ms.
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Re: 2015 WK2 Summit Poor damping

Will do! Going to be taking a trip to NYC Saturday that should help break them in. I went to NTB Tuesday to take a look at the Michelin Premier LTX and Defender LTX M/S. The sidewalls of both tires seemed a bit soft to me so I went with the Pirellis. Note there are two versions of the Scorpions: One that's XL rated and one that's not. The XLs are what I bought. Typically higher load rating = stiffer sidewall = sharper handling.

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Will do! Going to be taking a trip to NYC Saturday that should help break them in. I went to NTB Tuesday to take a look at the Michelin Premier LTX and Defender LTX M/S. The sidewalls of both tires seemed a bit soft to me so I went with the Pirellis. Note there are two versions of the Scorpions: One that's XL rated and one that's not. The XLs are what I bought. Typically higher load rating = stiffer sidewall = sharper handling.

Fingers crossed...
I'm not trying to urge you to buy an entirely new vehicle, but for what its worth I went from a 2014 Summit V8 to a 2015 High Altitude V6. I also noticed the mushy ride in the Summit and its for sure that specific suspension. In my new HA V6 it also has air suspension but rides and handles much better! I think some of that may be due to the lighter V6, but I know the High Altitude suspension is tuned differently. It would probably extremely expensive, but maybe you could change out to the High Altitude components?
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Re: 2015 WK2 Summit Poor damping

Hmm I know the Hemi adds 350 pounds and that will have an impact, but it shouldn't be like this. Question: Do you have 18 or 20" wheels on your HA?


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Ill give a slightly different experiance on this. I have a 2014 summit v8 and the bouncing basketball bad handling mushy feel for me was the fortera tires. I kept the forteras 10k miles before getting rid of them and going to a michelin. The michelins were a world of difference. There were times with the forteras that they got to bouncing so much in wavy roards i almost felt like the vehicle was destabalizing. The michilans handle well and totally got rid of that. The forteras had ultra soft sidewalls. Jeep has since dumped the forteras on the 2016+ in favor of the pirelli scorpions which are #1 rated on tire rack for touring suv vs forteras which were scroing around twords the bottom of the rattings. Lower weight engines and tighter suspension will defenitely help vehicle handling. But a good quality tire can make a world of difference. Fortunately jeep has finally seen this and moved to more quality in their tires rather than saving a few dollars and jumping back into a supply contract with lower qualirty tire like fortera
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Re: 2015 WK2 Summit Poor damping

The tires that come stock with the 20" rims are 265/50/20. The Pirelli Scoprion Verde come in 285/50/20. Does going to a slightly larger tire greatly change the ride/would it fit?
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