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Old 08-12-2016, 01:35 PM
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Re: 2016 Suspension changes (effects certain lifts & lowering)

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Re: 2016 Suspension changes (effects certain lifts & lowering)

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So I crawled under the front end today and sure enough, there's a flange that attaches the sway bar end links directly to the strut... I'm not a suspension engineer, but I can't for the life of me understand why they would want to do this. No matter, it is what it is. I'm going to stop by the local dealer and see of the 2016 SRT has the same setup. If it does, I might be able to pull a part number and leverage those struts for my drop project.

Other than the flange on the front struts and subsequent relocation of the end link mount, is there anything else that's dramatically changed? Anything in the rear suspension setup?
In my research, I learned the front ball joints are also different from previous model years. I have not heard of differences in the rear suspension but would not be surprised if something subtle changed there too.
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Re: 2016 Suspension changes (effects certain lifts & lowering)

Yeah, so quite a bit changed in the front end suspension for the '16 model year... After further research, it doesn't impact the SRT models, but they have a completely different shock and strut setup so there's no leveraging their suspension components (i.e. shocks / struts).

For those looking at upgrading sway bar end links - be careful as the front end is a different design all together. I should know in a couple of days what our options are, but for now hold tight. More to follow on that...

As for the rear - everything looks to be fairly even with the prior year WK2 setups. I should have the rear shocks and end links this week and will know for certain.

So......... As it stands, it's looking like I may be able to go forward with the lowering spring swap, but that I may be limited to swapping out shocks in the rear only. This shouldn't be an issue as most of the complaints around lowering springs seems to have come from people that have reported blow outs on the rear shocks. Sway bar and links for the rear look good as well with current designs. As far as the front end goes, it's springs only.

It goes without saying, I assume these findings would apply to anyone looking to suspension lift their '16 GC's as well. If anyone finds anything different, please keep this thread updated. Thx.








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Re: 2016 Suspension changes (effects certain lifts)

UPDATE - installed RM mid springs on front struts yesterday... Resulted in bottoming out front struts and made my jeep completely undrivable. I didn't get to the rear springs because at that point I knew I was going back to stock ride height.

So today I swapped the front springs back to stock and turned my attentions to the rear. Ended up swapping out the load leveling shocks with Bilstein 4600's and changed out the rear sway bar with the SRT rear bar. Also hooked up the new SRT sway with Black Ops rear end links. My reasoning for going through all this with the rear was two fold:

1. I knew lowering the ride height was a scrapped effort
2. Even though lowering the Jeep was out, I wanted to see if I could improve handling and reduce some of the bounce coming from the rear end...

End result - after getting everything buttoned up and having an alignment done at my local shop, I'm happy to report that I did manage to firm up the ride. Cornering performance is improved and as an added bonus, the rear did drop about .5 - .75 in. The overall stance of the Jeep is now fairly level vs the stock "raked" look.

I'll take pics and post up additional details tomorrow. For what it's worth, I'm disappointed that I couldn't see the spring swap through to a desired result, but the final outcome with handling improvement and leveled stance has put a little bit of a shine on an otherwise dim project.
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Re: 2016 Suspension changes (effects certain lifts & lowering)

Quick pic of the end result - Note leveled stance... I'll measure wheel gaps and post up more detail in a bit.

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Re: 2016 Suspension changes (effects certain lifts)

Glad I found this thread. Just bought a 2016 75th with the tow package and was going to level it with 5100s. Guess the RRO is the only option right now.
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Re: 2016 Suspension changes (effects certain lifts)

Here's my '16 Limited 75th with tow package before and after the RRO leveling kit up front and 3/4" TJ spacers in the rear. The pictures don't quite show how much difference the lift made, and seem to suggest more rake than it looks in person. IMHO, I think any more would be too much without bigger tires (good luck with that one by the way - I went with Goodyear Adventure AT Kevlars in 265/50R20 instead of the usual suspects in 275/55R20 because I couldn't find a definitive way to recalibrate the TCU, ABS, and Traction Control systems for the larger diameter and didn't want to risk it). I think it'll do until someone comes up with a suspension lift for our model year. *Cough - Old Man Emu - Cough* Good luck with yours grunt6!
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This is really unfortunate to read, and I knew coming into a 16' that there were material changes, didn't know that they were so material...
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Re: 2016 Suspension changes (effects certain lifts)

any ideas what shock upgrades will be available for 2016 wk2s? looking to upgrade my suspension to bilsteins or eibachs at some point, not too concerned about lifts.
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Re: 2016 Suspension changes (effects certain lifts)

I just picked up my 17' 75th Aniv. Laredo. I'm sure in time that the Eibach & OME lift kits will be available. I sent a message to ARB, but haven't gotten a reply back yet.
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Re: 2016 Suspension changes (effects certain lifts)

Hi Nate! Thank you for your interest in OME. We are currently working on an updated system for the 2016+ WK2, but we have no timeline for you as far as availability yet.


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This is the response I got back from ARB. In time they will have an updated lift.
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Re: 2016 Suspension changes (effects certain lifts)

I am new here, just picked up a 2016 Limited (no tow package) and I wanted to lower it. Does anyone make a set of springs that will be able to do that? Eibach site says they have them.
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