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Old 08-31-2016, 02:19 PM
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Re: Another WK2 w. Rubicon Wheels

No HD brakes on mine, but I do have QL. I'm clearing the 255/70/18 (32.1") tires in every ride height. That's mounted on OEM Sahara rims, as photoed above.
The HD brakes won't matter in regards to tire clearance with QL assuming they're positioned in the same relation to the Jeep. If you get a rim that is offset more/less moving the tire inboard or outboard you may have clearance issues that I'm not having.
As I understand it, the HD brakes will clear 18" rims, which makes since because that IS an option on the WK2. The 17" rim from the Rubicon is not available on the WK2, which creates the concern.
My Sahara rims are 18" x 7.5" wide, with 44.4 offset. The 18's on the WK2 are 18" x 8" wide with a 56.4 offset. The difference being that the WK2 rim has about 3/4" more rim inboard than my JKU rims do. So long story short, I don't see any reason you couldn't run JK/JKU rims, or something with similar specs.
Since the brakes are only a concern with clearing the rim, I can say with certainty that if the rim clears your brakes, you can run the same size tire I am and you WILL clear them with QL, because I've tested ever ride height from OR2 to Park mode.

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Re: Another WK2 w. Rubicon Wheels

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No HD brakes on mine, but I do have QL. I'm clearing the 255/70/18 (32.1") tires in every ride height. That's mounted on OEM Sahara rims, as photoed above.
The HD brakes won't matter in regards to tire clearance with QL assuming they're positioned in the same relation to the Jeep. If you get a rim that is offset more/less moving the tire inboard or outboard you may have clearance issues that I'm not having.
As I understand it, the HD brakes will clear 18" rims, which makes since because that IS an option on the WK2. The 17" rim from the Rubicon is not available on the WK2, which creates the concern.
My Sahara rims are 18" x 7.5" wide, with 44.4 offset. The 18's on the WK2 are 18" x 8" wide with a 56.4 offset. The difference being that the WK2 rim has about 3/4" more rim inboard than my JKU rims do. So long story short, I don't see any reason you couldn't run JK/JKU rims, or something with similar specs.
Since the brakes are only a concern with clearing the rim, I can say with certainty that if the rim clears your brakes, you can run the same size tire I am and you WILL clear them with QL, because I've tested ever ride height from OR2 to Park mode.
Found a set of the Sahara take-offs you pictured above with the Dueler tires on CL. Going to see if they are still available. I think I like the idea of going 18" without spacers over 17" with spacers. Thanks for the info!
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Old 09-01-2016, 08:43 AM
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Re: Another WK2 w. Rubicon Wheels

That's the exact same thought I had. I was considering the Rubicon rims, and was pretty sure I could clear them without spacers since I don't have the HD brakes. However, I knew for sure I could clear the 18's so they were the safe choice. I wanted to avoid using a spacer if possible, and it turns out the Sahara rims look great anyway.
Just FYI, the 2016 Sahara's have gray pockets like mine, where the 2015 and prior are all silver.
Also another heads up. I sold the Duelers off my Sahara's for $300 the same day I listed them (priced to sell). If the tires are in good shape you could probably hold out for more ($400-$500 ish?).
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Re: Another WK2 w. Rubicon Wheels

Here's a comparison of the change they made for 2016.
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Re: Another WK2 w. Rubicon Wheels

How is the ride quality and sound with the stock mud's that come on the Rubicon? I am considering theme for winter. I have the K02s right now and don't mind the sound for reference but I feel like the muds are going to be a lot louder.
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Re: Another WK2 w. Rubicon Wheels

So this is the most recent post that talks about using wheels from a wrangler. My question is if anyone has heard or tried using MOAB wheels vice Rubicon? I recently got a set for my Laredo E and neither the dealership nor my local tire shop wold install them. They kept saying the wheel is too light for the jeep and that the torque for the lug nuts is higher on the GC and could compromise the integrity of the wheel.
Is any of this true and did I just buy oversized paper weights?
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Re: Another WK2 w. Rubicon Wheels

Wow those are sexy rims! I just found a set for $200. Will these fit on a 2012 wk2 Laredo? Don't they have different lug patterns?
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Old 10-05-2016, 12:42 PM
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So this is the most recent post that talks about using wheels from a wrangler. My question is if anyone has heard or tried using MOAB wheels vice Rubicon? I recently got a set for my Laredo E and neither the dealership nor my local tire shop wold install them. They kept saying the wheel is too light for the jeep and that the torque for the lug nuts is higher on the GC and could compromise the integrity of the wheel.
Is any of this true and did I just buy oversized paper weights?
What? Sounds like these guys are trying to shake you down. I'm going to guess they offered to sell you a set of rims that will work, right?
The lug nut torque specs being different compromising the rim. Come on.
The torque spec for the WK2 is 100 ft-lbs. The torque spec for the JK/JKU is 95 ft-lbs. That's minimal, especially considering most people don't use a torque wrench on their lug nuts, and a lot of shops just crank them on way to tight with a air ratchet. Tell that shop to pound salt.
Moreover, the rim (a solid piece of aluminum) is not going to be compromised by tightening the lug nuts a little extra, even if it was a significant torque difference. The force will be applied directly toward the hub, which would compress the aluminum and not apply any shear forces. If you tighten the rims in a crisscross pattern like your supposed to (not simply going around the circle) the rim is at no risk of being damaged.
Actually, by over tightening the lug nuts, you're much more likely to damage the studs themselves than the rims. The studs will be taking tensile strain, where the rim is taking compression. The tensile strength of the studs will be much lower the the compression strength of the rim.
So long story short. Mount the rim and tell them to keep whatever they're trying to sell you. For that matter tell them to mount them at 95 ft-lbs instead of 100 ft-lbs if they're so concerned.
Oh and IIRC the Rubicon rims ARE Moab rims. They're just re-branded for Jeep, so it's the same rim with a different stamp on it.


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Wow those are sexy rims! I just found a set for $200. Will these fit on a 2012 wk2 Laredo? Don't they have different lug patterns?
I'm not exactly sure which rims you're talking about but the Rubicon and Sahara rims will both fit. Bolt pattern is the same, no issues there. The Moab rims will be available in different patterns though they should have some that fit modern Jeeps, so they should work too.
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Re: Another WK2 w. Rubicon Wheels

That's what i figured. That the dealership nor the tire shop would know. Thanks for the clarification. I'm gonna take them to some other place and just have them put on with no explanation. Here's a pic of the wheel i'm talking about.


This a sample pic from eBay, but they are the ones i have.
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Alright, so I took the tires to get mounted on my '11 GC Laredo E. In the end the tires did end up rubbing against the calipers. If anyone knows if adding a space fixes this then I'll buy a set, but at this point I'm considering selling the set as they are rims and tires. Thanks everyone for the help.
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They kept saying the wheel is too light for the jeep and that the torque for the lug nuts is higher on the GC and could compromise the integrity of the wheel.

I've heard some stories in my day, but this just about tops them all. What are they smoking to come up with such a manufactured statement?
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I know this is an old post- but I have the same rims and tires on my '12 overland with the hemi hd brakes. I put on 1.75" spidertrax spacers and I don't have problems with rubbing even with the quadra lift. Just wanted to give my experience for anyone wondering!
My question is will 1.25" or 1.50" spacers give you enough clearance for the HD brakes on the Hemi or Diesel? I don't like to use spacers but if I do use the spacers I want to use the smallest necessary to give just enough clearance for the Rubicon wheels. Does anyone know the smallest I can use with the Rubicon wheels? Thanks in advance!
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