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Old 03-09-2016, 07:23 PM
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Finally took her on the highway and tested out the tires at speed. Much much softer than the Defenders.

Im still noticing some feedback in the wheel but im almost positive that me being hyper-aware of the situation and looking for it. The roads in Texas arent the smoothest and you get that feedback in the wheel.

Other than that, the tires are performing well. I would recommend them over the Defenders in terms of comfort. The defenders might last longer but IMO youll pay for it with the ride stiffness
If its just feed back through the steering wheel over the bumps on the highway a little of that's normal with this GC. if its continuous vibrating steering wheel that isn't normal, you should be able to cruise at any speed without that. sounds like it is mostly fixed though which is good. id drive on it a while, double check your air pressure and if you think you still may have some vibration maybe let another shop take a look at it.

concerning the stiffness of the Defenders, I'm sure its probably due to the long tread life they have. Honestly I don't need my tires to last 80,000 miles, I rather 50,000 and a little softer. But they are what they are I guess.

Has anyone else with the Defenders noticed that these tires are a little overly stiff or are you ok with them?

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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

I completely agree with you on the tread vs stiffness trade off. Whats the point of having a tire for 80,000 miles if you hate how they ride? Ill sell my GC long before I reach the 50,000 the Premiers are good for.

As for whats next, there might just be a strobe install in the near future. Youll see a new thread pop up if it happens.
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I like the rubber ones but I wish they came in a nice burgandy color.
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

Has anyone else with the Defenders noticed that these tires are a little overly stiff or are you ok with them?[/QUOTE]


I was concerned about stiffness prior to making my purchase. I was considering the Premier's and Pirelli's. I haven't had the opportunity to drive either so have no way of comparing them.

Several have mentioned that the Fortera's were pretty good with sucking up the bumps. I would generally agree. So that is what I have to compare to.

The best word I could use to describe the Defender's is planted. Bumps, cornering, stopping and wet and snow traction is great. I said before, they have absolutely transformed my Jeep. So I'm more than ok with them, I'm ecstatic!

My commute is a mix of roadways and includes old highways with plenty of bridge expansion joints and heavy industrial area city streets. The Fortera's skittered around and took a second to regain their composure. No such thing with the Defender's. The Defender's have smoothed my ride considerably and was immediately noticeable, but as I've stressed several times in this post, they really improved the ride once my alignment was properly done. With my front and rear toe out I could feel the bumps more so and my mpg was down too.

Lastly, I don't normally expect to get the mileage touted by the mfg. I was very happily surprised getting 40k form the Fortera's though. My point is a 50k warranty says 40k usable and safe tread. That was a major factor as was wet and snow traction in my decision process.
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Has anyone else with the Defenders noticed that these tires are a little overly stiff or are you ok with them?

I was concerned about stiffness prior to making my purchase. I was considering the Premier's and Pirelli's. I haven't had the opportunity to drive either so have no way of comparing them.

Several have mentioned that the Fortera's were pretty good with sucking up the bumps. I would generally agree. So that is what I have to compare to.

The best word I could use to describe the Defender's is planted. Bumps, cornering, stopping and wet and snow traction is great. I said before, they have absolutely transformed my Jeep. So I'm more than ok with them, I'm ecstatic!

My commute is a mix of roadways and includes old highways with plenty of bridge expansion joints and heavy industrial area city streets. The Fortera's skittered around and took a second to regain their composure. No such thing with the Defender's. The Defender's have smoothed my ride considerably and was immediately noticeable, but as I've stressed several times in this post, they really improved the ride once my alignment was properly done. With my front and rear toe out I could feel the bumps more so and my mpg was down too.

Lastly, I don't normally expect to get the mileage touted by the mfg. I was very happily surprised getting 40k form the Fortera's though. My point is a 50k warranty says 40k usable and safe tread. That was a major factor as was wet and snow traction in my decision process.[/QUOTE]

Glad you are still liking the Defenders that is good to hear. do you have the Quadra lift setup or non quadra lift? I'm wondering if that may have something to do with them feeling different for different people. I agree with you on the forteras they did soak up bumps well if you are just cruising straight down the road but that's about the only thing they did well. on wavy winding roads those forteras got to bouncing so much I almost felt like the jeep was destabilizing sometimes. That was my biggest complaint they were just too mushy which translated into terrible handling. A quality set of Michelins transformed the Jeep into what it should be. I will be ready for a new set of tires in a few months and I have always been leaning towards the Defenders so glad to hear you still very happy with them after putting some miles on them. you are on 20 inch wheels correct? thanks for the feed back
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

The defenders are a great tire. There is no doubt about it. The grip and performance those tires displayed blew the Forteras out of the water. But it comes at a cost.

Having driven both the Defenders and Premiers on a 2015 Overland 4x2, the Defenders highlight every little bump in the road. The forteras were mushy but these Defenders are too stiff. I find the Premiers to be juuuuuust right. They are still very grippy but are worlds softer than the defenders. I drove with the Premiers through some pretty terrible rain and they really held the road. Even drove through a good puddle collecting on the side of the road and they was no feeling of hydroplaning.

If you want a similar cushy ride to the Forteras but want an overall better tire, I highly recommend the Premiers.
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

Thanks for all the great write ups. I have 41k on my 2014 limited and the stock 20" Forteras have 6/32 left. They did good in 3 Chicago winters. Not bad if you drive carefully. I have driven on far worse. I am getting ready to replace them, just waiting for a good sale this spring.

I have been looking at the Premier and the Defender. The only drawback I see to the Premiers is the tread depth is only 8.5/32 compared to 12/32 on the Defender. I generally swap out tires at 4/32 or 5/32 to keep decent depth for snow driving.

I find it odd the the Premier tread depth is even lower than the Forteras at 10/32.

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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

Saw this thread and figure I'd jump in. Looking for new tires to replace the garbage Forteras on our Summit. We have 18" Laredo X wheels with Nokian Hakkapelita R SUV tires for winter. Anyway, looked at a few and the Pirelli Scorpions come up with the best reviews. Looks like they come stock on the new summit as well.

Called my local tire place and ordered them for next week along with an alignment, and brake fluid flush. The vehicle has 45k on it and it's about 4 years old. I can't deal with my local dealer anymore as anytime I take the car in for service, I end up with some extra issue like reset presets, engine cover not replaced properly, spilled oil on the engine cover, etc etc etc. I'm dreading taking it in for the 2 recall notices for the fuel relay or whatever that has to be replaced.

Is there any sort of special mode the air suspension needs to be in for alignment? I'm assuming as long as it's in automatic "standard" height, it should be good. I'm sure the tech knows, but I figure I should be prepared.
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....Is there any sort of special mode the air suspension needs to be in for alignment? I'm assuming as long as it's in automatic "standard" height, it should be good. I'm sure the tech knows, but I figure I should be prepared.
I have a '15 GC Limited, and on the dashboard touch screen, there's a button labeled "alignment mode". I believe it puts the suspension height in the "aero" mode.

I believe on the earlier GCs, there is indeed someplace similar, to set the suspension height for alignments. Do you have a way to select "sport" mode, as I think I saw that mentioned somewhere in a discussion on this website.
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Glad you are still liking the Defenders that is good to hear. do you have the Quadra lift setup or non quadra lift? I'm wondering if that may have something to do with them feeling different for different people. I agree with you on the forteras they did soak up bumps well if you are just cruising straight down the road but that's about the only thing they did well. on wavy winding roads those forteras got to bouncing so much I almost felt like the jeep was destabilizing sometimes. That was my biggest complaint they were just too mushy which translated into terrible handling. A quality set of Michelins transformed the Jeep into what it should be. I will be ready for a new set of tires in a few months and I have always been leaning towards the Defenders so glad to hear you still very happy with them after putting some miles on them. you are on 20 inch wheels correct? thanks for the feed back
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I have a '15 GC Limited, and on the dashboard touch screen, there's a button labeled "alignment mode". I believe it puts the suspension height in the "aero" mode.

I believe on the earlier GCs, there is indeed someplace similar, to set the suspension height for alignments. Do you have a way to select "sport" mode, as I think I saw that mentioned somewhere in a discussion on this website.
Yeah, I can just turn the drive mode knob to sport and it'll set it the suspension to aero.
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

Hey everyone... I'm currently looking for tires too and I'm between the Defenders and the Premiers. The jeep dealers near me (CT) are running the buy 3 get 1 free so I'd walk out the door paying $868 for defenders which seems good? But my question is, if my jeep is driving straight now... Do I need a 4 wheel alignment when I get the new tires. Or is the balancing good enough. I know these JGC with 20's are finicky. Thanks in advanced!


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