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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

Im going with the Michelins. They come with full warranty on the tires including road hazard protection. The Pirellis are only be sold as the tires, no warranties.

My jeep dealership wanted $246/per tire. They stated that they do price match. I sent them the tirerack information at $212/per tire. Should come out to $650/tires and probably $80 for installation. Out the door for under $750 including road force balancing.

The advisor was trying to sell me on getting an alignment for $75. For a 7 month old Jeep with 6500 miles, I cant see it being necessary. Am I wrong?

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Old 02-12-2016, 10:10 AM
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

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Im going with the Michelins. They come with full warranty on the tires including road hazard protection. The Pirellis are only be sold as the tires, no warranties.

My jeep dealership wanted $246/per tire. They stated that they do price match. I sent them the tirerack information at $212/per tire. Should come out to $650/tires and probably $80 for installation. Out the door for under $750 including road force balancing.

The advisor was trying to sell me on getting an alignment for $75. For a 7 month old Jeep with 6500 miles, I cant see it being necessary. Am I wrong?
You got a deal there id grab that and run. 4 defenders installed with road force for $750. you wont do better than that on such a good tire.

concerning the alignment, you would think being a new car you don't need it but because its new parts break in and settle this can happen and also from the factory they often come out of there misaligned to start believe it or not. Now the age is where I would argue that with them if the thing is only 7 months old and needing an alignment I thought they would be covering that. I might be wrong but I thought you got like a 1 year/12k on things like rotors warping, alignment issues and other not typically covered maintenance items like that because it should not happen when brand new.
Also they should be able to just check it and tell you if its out or not, if out I would push them to cover that though. now if you go in there with damage or bent rims then yeah that's different and you would be responsible to cover alignment. check the full version of the manual and see if it says anything about 1rst year on items like that. I had mine aligned when I dumped the forteras at 10k. It was out of alignment, steering wheel was crooked from the start.
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

You should have at least one alignment covered under warranty. Just say it's been pulling a little so you'll go with one. Then verify that it's warranty just to avoid the disaster when you come to pick it up.
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

Excellent Information. Ill push them for a free alignment check. Im good friends with my service advisor (who happens to be off today). Im sure hell be able to get me free alignment and whatever else I need.

Probably get the tires installed on Monday. Ill keep the thread posted on installation and reviews.
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

I, personally always get an alignment after getting new tires. Since tires aren't cheap, and you typically only get new ones every few years, it's a good way to ensure you don't wear them out unexpectedly due to a bad alignment. With your vehicle being so young, it's not as big of a risk, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to see if they'll give you a free check.


FYI, I will not be getting an alignment with my new tires, as the Jeep will be brand new, with no miles on it.
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

So thanks everyone in this thread. I ended up going for the Pirelli Scorpion Verde Pluses. Walmart had them for $186 for a day (now back up to $200), so I went for it. Considering install is $12/tire and includes lifetime rotations, I figured why not?

I drive my car like someone that probably should have gone for the SRT, so the V speed rating is pretty attractive. Plus, the awesome reviews don't hurt. I just hope I won't regret not picking a more aggressive tire when the heavy snow hits or if I'm taking off the paved road.
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So thanks everyone in this thread. I ended up going for the Pirelli Scorpion Verde Pluses. Walmart had them for $186 for a day (now back up to $200), so I went for it. Considering install is $12/tire and includes lifetime rotations, I figured why not?

I drive my car like someone that probably should have gone for the SRT, so the W speed rating is pretty attractive. Plus, the awesome reviews don't hurt. I just hope I won't regret not picking a more aggressive tire when the heavy snow hits or if I'm taking off the paved road.
People are actually rating them pretty well in the snow for an all season so you are probably fine there as far as an all season goes. Off the paved road well the defenders are probably the best bet for an all season in that realm. But W rated ? I didn't realize that. So that's your trade off there, it'll likely be a good performer pushing to the limits of your left foot on road where you spend majority of your time. Give us some updates once you have run them around some
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

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People are actually rating them pretty well in the snow for an all season so you are probably fine there as far as an all season goes. Off the paved road well the defenders are probably the best bet for an all season in that realm. But W rated ? I didn't realize that. So that's your trade off there, it'll likely be a good performer pushing to the limits of your left foot on road where you spend majority of your time. Give us some updates once you have run them around some
Sorry - that should be "V" rated, not W. I edited. Still, that is a high rating when most of the tires for our Jeeps are T rated.

Anyway, will post a review after I get some miles on them. They're only supposed to arrive at the store at the end of the month.
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Today was the big day and it was as big of a pain the ass as you could imagine.

Dropped the car off at 9am. They told me it will be done around 330pm. I work from home so this didn't bother me. Got a call from them around 2:25pm that they "misquoted" the price/special so it was going to be more expensive. I didn't let that one fly. Got to the dealership around 430. Vehicle is ready to go. Oh wait, it's 5:15pm and they forgot to take photos of the alignment under warranty. So another 40 minutes is needed.

The bright side, $725 for all four tires, road force balancing and alignment. Plus I donated my old tires to a family in need since they're basically new. Will post driving impressions if they ever give me my keys back. Might be faster to just buy a new 2016
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Initial impressions:

The tires are definitely quieter and feel more planted.

However, I am getting quite a bit of feedback to the steering wheel. Vibrations and movement. Is this just because they are new tires that need to be worn in or am I dealing with a poor balancing job? This is occurring at highway speeds, 60mph+
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

Glad to see you finally got tires...LOL. I was the same way. After all you HOPE to be living with them for 40K miles at least and hopefully much more. They do make a huge difference in how your vehicle drives and then of course there are the safety concerns and even warranties. And they ain't cheap either. Of course I'm seeing a bunch of different comments about various brands and would like to interject my two cents. Oh I already did? Well here's another two... For your use in Texas ( btw, I have driven there, Bergstrom AFB) the reason I recommended the Defenders over the Premier's was gully washing rains on flat ass roads. In my opinion the Defender's will do a better job of evacuating the water than the Premier's. Having said that if I could have afforded to buy a winter set of tires I almost certainly would've bought the Premier's for here. And a set of Nokians for winter. The other reason I purchased the Defender's was the longer warranty. As far as the Pirelli's are concerned I read several complaints about treadwear on various tire sites. Everything else I read was good and I was really leaning in that direction especially after Jeep decided to use them in 2016. However as soon as I went to their site and read their warranty I decided Michelin, which I've had exceptionally good experience with for many years was the deciding factor for me. Again congrats!
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Initial impressions:

The tires are definitely quieter and feel more planted.

However, I am getting quite a bit of feedback to the steering wheel. Vibrations and movement. Is this just because they are new tires that need to be worn in or am I dealing with a poor balancing job? This is occurring at highway speeds, 60mph+
sounds like a bad balance job or an out of round tire. did the other tires have vibration at all? if so you could also possibly be dealing with a slightly bent rim if not then likely one of the first reasons, more than likely the balance job. this wont correct itself. take it back and tell them to road force balance them again and force match. They should have done the force match initially with the road force but a lazy tech will sometimes skip that part. Ask them to give you the road force numbers they got each of the tires down to. these grand Cherokees have sensitive suspensions especially on the 20 inch rims. years ago on smaller rims road force numbers of 20 would get you by on an suv now on this set up they really need to get them down to ideally like 12 and below which isn't always easy. if any of the tires are way off like 30 or 40 or something then they may need to replace the tire.

I have been through the mill on all this tire balance stuff on these GC 20s. Stay on them they need to make it right no matter how many tires they may need to send back for being out of round. ask them the road force numbers so they know you are watching them and they will try to do a better job. a road force job is only as good as the tech that takes the time to do it properly
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