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Yeah, doesn't make much sense to me to dump the 20s. They look and perform great, even during light offroading. Obviously, if you're planning on tackling the Rubicon going with 18" tires would be a better plan.

Drive thru my area. Paved streets are not well. As far as looks, I never liked the 20s. Everyone has there own taste and what works for some, may not work for others. Buy an overland with the off road package and they come with 18s. Would have bought one had I known at the time
Besides, Op was looking for ideas on how to get a smoother ride. Just trying to help him, not bash others

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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

I have honestly thought about getting the 18's instead of the 20's.

I had a 2014 limited with the 18's and that ride was incredibly smooth. I do like how the 20's look more so but that does come with a stiffer ride.

My main takeaway was that I should have splurged for the 4x4 when I purchased my jeep for that air suspension. A mistake I will not make should I purchase a 2017
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Old 02-29-2016, 11:18 PM
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I have honestly thought about getting the 18's instead of the 20's.

I had a 2014 limited with the 18's and that ride was incredibly smooth. I do like how the 20's look more so but that does come with a stiffer ride.

My main takeaway was that I should have splurged for the 4x4 when I purchased my jeep for that air suspension. A mistake I will not make should I purchase a 2017
Make sure you test drive them throughly the air suspension is not as floaty as you might think. I have it on mine and I do like the ride but if I didn't know I was on an air ride I would think it was just a normal suspension. Generally I think this grand cherokee handles very well though for what it is and as heavy as it is. It has a good combination of ride and handling for what it is.
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

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I got the new Defender tires installed on my jeep today. I think I might just hate these tires.

They were talking about how it has a 800 Sidewall rating. While great for tread wear it does mean a stiffer ride. I had a three hour drive today and I felt every second of it. When I looked over at my empty passenger seat I could see it vibrating from the road.

I know there is nothing wrong with these tires in terms of defect, but it's too stiff of a ride. I called michellin and I might switch over to the Premiers. Supposedly they are a softer ride. I have another 4 hour trip coming up in the next couple days. I'm giving them their fair shot as maybe it's just they need time, but right now the jeep doesn't feel like a luxury SUV, it feels like a lifted F150
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I got the new Defender tires installed on my jeep today. I think I might just hate these tires.

They were talking about how it has a 800 Sidewall rating. While great for tread wear it does mean a stiffer ride. I had a three hour drive today and I felt every second of it. When I looked over at my empty passenger seat I could see it vibrating from the road.

I know there is nothing wrong with these tires in terms of defect, but it's too stiff of a ride. I called michellin and I might switch over to the Premiers. Supposedly they are a softer ride. I have another 4 hour trip coming up in the next couple days. I'm giving them their fair shot as maybe it's just they need time, but right now the jeep doesn't feel like a luxury SUV, it feels like a lifted F150
You should not see seats or steering wheels vibrating if they are balanced properly, you should be able to drive down the road at 90 mph without that happening. I still think that dealer has no idea what they are doing with their road force balancer.
Tire stiffness is a whole different issue though. You may try test driving a 2016 GC with the Pirelli Scorpions on it and see how they feel, will give you an idea of what they are putting on the masses anyway.

Also something to consider is taking it to a different jeep dealer to have it rebalanced. As long as it's a jeep dealer they may honor that receipt and not make you pay for a rebalance if you explain the situation to them. Get someone to work on it that knows what they are doing.
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

If you are coming from Forterra's you should be experiencing a much smoother ride all over. More planted and way improved cornering. They aren't soft but mine aren't vibrating at all. If you haven't hit anything with the rims since the previous tires it still sounds like they haven't balanced them right. Did you get an alignment? The first alignment I had done gave me a noticeable drop in mpg. No wonder as far as my front and rear toe in was off. They didn't put it in alignment mode and they used std GC specs, not Quadra-lift specs. It hit expansion joints fairly rough too. Once they got it right it really, truly transformed this Jeep. If you like soft though I guess the Premier's since you need to trade for another Michelin.
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Have you tried airing them down?
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I honestly don't understand how they could feel that bad. Mine really does feel great at any speed. I've even turned the radio and hvac off just to relish in the utter smooth silence at 70 mph. I feel bad for you, since I'm one of the folks that's been touting the Defenders. I truly hope you find a satisfying outcome to this situation.

BTW, I've been running mine at 36 psi.
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

I completed my round trip journey last night, roughly 350 miles round trip.

The tires not got better. Any little bump or imperfection in the road was sent right into my body. Either the tires I have are incredible stiff, they truly have no idea how to roadforce them, or something is wrong with my suspension. Given that I have 7600 miles on the vehicle, im guessing its not the suspension.

I know the rims arent bent because I was not having this problem with the forteras. They did do an alignment the first time I got the new wheels on but not the second.

I need to price out how much the Premiers would cost to transfer into. Maybe I can complain enough to Michelin and they will pay the difference. My body legitimately hurts from the ride.
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I honestly don't understand how they could feel that bad. Mine really does feel great at any speed. I've even turned the radio and hvac off just to relish in the utter smooth silence at 70 mph. I feel bad for you, since I'm one of the folks that's been touting the Defenders. I truly hope you find a satisfying outcome to this situation.

BTW, I've been running mine at 36 psi.
I agree, feeling bad for you too. I have been running 38-39 psi smoothly, so I don't think that's the issue. Maybe going to a reputable tire installer and having them check alignment and maybe balance on just the front tires to keep the cost down???

The last time I looked Premier's were only a few dollars difference. With the distance you're travelling and number of times to get it right I can't see why they wouldn't work with you.
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

I don't know what to say, other than that something is seriously wrong. I have 20" Pirellis with 800 sidewall rating and don't have anything similar to what you're describing. You should be having a softer ride than I do, not a harsher one.
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Re: Best Tire for the Asphalt Loving Jeep

I truly wish each and everyone of you could come and drive my Jeep, to either confirm or deny my position. Part of me feels like im just being paranoid and its actually fine, the other part of me is actually aching from the drive yesterday and knows that an empty passenger seat shouldnt vibrate at highway speeds on level road.

I think the best course of action is to get the Premiers, have my dealership mount and roadforce balance them. Then take it to a reputable tire shop or different dealership and have them double check the work.
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