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Old 03-25-2016, 10:56 PM
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Bilstein 5100 Failure

Ok so I was running bilstein 5100s all around for only a few weeks when I decided to lift the rear with TJ spacers and put OME shocks on back for more wheel travel. I found out that one of the shocks had a broken compression stop bc it was plastic. I only bottomed this shock out once that I felt. Then I took the fronts off to readjust their hight from the second highest to the highest setting and one of the struts wouldn't go back in and I started to figure something was wrong. Sure enough the strut was broke and much longer than it should have been. I sent some pictures to Bilstein and they were great about it and sent me a new strut. I also think they will be replacing the rear. I have my sway bars off which allows the stuts and probably shocks to extend further. I have driven fast but not through anything I wouldn't think the vehicle could handle. I have also heard of the OMEs overextending like this but not the 5100s. Although most keep their sway bars on and don't drive their GCs baja style. Still disappointing. I doubt the Icons or Kings that have yet to hit the market would break under anything I've put them through but they also cost a lot more.
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Re: Bilstein 5100 Failure

I was thinking about getting them for my wk2 because I had good performance out of them in my previous 2 trucks and over 100k of dirt roads...

I wanted to avoid going the Icon route because of the price!!!

What lift setting did you have your Bilsteins set to?
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Re: Bilstein 5100 Failure

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I was thinking about getting them for my wk2 because I had good performance out of them in my previous 2 trucks and over 100k of dirt roads...

I wanted to avoid going the Icon route because of the price!!!

What lift setting did you have your Bilsteins set to?
I had them at 1.25" when they broke and now I have them at 1.75" which may make them more likely to overextend. But now that I have an idea of what their limits are I've backed off a little bit. I'm sure Icons are great I ran the Dohna Hoes which are now Icons on my Tacoma for years and even did over 1000 miles in Baja without sway bars and never had any problems that I knew of. The main reason I didn't go with Icons was that they will warn you of Vibration noise from them. Largely bc they bolt directly to our unibodies (something that wasn't an issue on my Tacoma).
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Re: Bilstein 5100 Failure

Yes the noise issues is one of the other reasons I want to avoid the Icons... Ive had very good luck with the Icon coilovers, on my previous truck I run first the Bilstein 5100s front and back and to me they where a 50% improvement over stock on dirt roads, then I upgraded to the Icons and in front they where another 50% improvement over the Bilsteins, now on the rear I didn't like the Icons, they where just too stiff for daily driving even with the Deaver add a packs that replaced the overload leaf, ended up putting the rear bilsteins back on
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Re: Bilstein 5100 Failure

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Yes the noise issues is one of the other reasons I want to avoid the Icons... Ive had very good luck with the Icon coilovers, on my previous truck I run first the Bilstein 5100s front and back and to me they where a 50% improvement over stock on dirt roads, then I upgraded to the Icons and in front they where another 50% improvement over the Bilsteins, now on the rear I didn't like the Icons, they where just too stiff for daily driving even with the Deaver add a packs that replaced the overload leaf, ended up putting the rear bilsteins back on
I'm pretty sure investing in some King or Icons is a good idea if you like to drive your WK2 like a rally car... Which I do, but not if the vehicle or suspension can't handle it.
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Re: Bilstein 5100 Failure

I have my sway bars off....... put them back on.
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I have my sway bars off....... put them back on.
I assume you meant, you had your sway bars off then put them back on. Or are you telling me to put my sway bars back on? lol

If no off road vehicles use sway bars including pre runners and some rally cars I don't see why I would want to have them on. Yeah you can't take corners as fast but I don't really speed on the roads anyways. Since I usually do the speed limits I don't mind having mine off. Why did you put your back on? I'm assuming cornering. what suspension setup do you have? you might be the only other person I've even heard of taking off their sway bars on a WK2 lol
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Re: Bilstein 5100 Failure

Does disconnecting the sway bars make much difference in the WK2?
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Re: Bilstein 5100 Failure

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Does disconnecting the sway bars make much difference in the WK2?
It makes sense that it would. Judging from the pictures I've seen of other's articulation, I'm pretty sure I'm getting more. Also when you hit bumps or dips you usually aren't able to use as much wheel travel bc it yanks on your sway bar.

Here are pics of my articulation before I lifted the back and put longer OME shocks on and before I bumped the fronts up to their highest setting and added RRO Trim Packers. Personally I think my fronts were to soft and were able to be pushed up into the fender to easily so I lifted it a bit more to get more controlled articulation.
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Re: Bilstein 5100 Failure

Bilstein informed me today that they are sending me a new rear shock as well.
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