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Re: Brembo Brakes

Just received my Brembo rotors. I'm going to install them on my 2012 Overland. I can't believe the size and weight of the fronts. Makes me wonder if my lugs will hold them... also wondering if they are going to raise hell with the bearings and front end parts...

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Re: Brembo Brakes

Bigger brakes will not wear out your bearings faster. Wider, heavier wheels with less backspacing might.
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Re: Brembo Brakes

Brembo's installed. Pretty close to the front wheel, but no problem... Didn't need the splash guards. Had to shave off some of the block on the brake line. Everything else fit perfectly. Stops great. My original rotors looked good from the outside but when we took them off the insides were rusty and grooved. The oem pads were still good. Do you all thing adding stainless brake lines would make any difference for regular street driving?
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Re: Brembo Brakes

No, don't waste ur time with stainless lines.
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No, don't waste ur time with stainless lines.
I would have to strongly disagree on that!

After spending all that money on this Brembo SRT brake upgrade why wouldn't you upgrade the OEM rubber lines for another ~ $120.00??

OEM rubber brake lines will expand and flex slightly when pressurized as the brakes are applied. This will get more pronounced as the OEM rubber lines age and begin to deteriorate as the miles add up. S/S brake lines will not expand as the brakes are applied and will not be prone to doing this as they age. All of the hydraulic pressure applied at the pedal will be transferred to the pads with the addition of superior S/S brake lines that will last the life of the vehicle and provide a better braking experience.
Isn't a better braking system the reason one would do this upgrade in the first place?
Why upgrade the calipers and rotors with superior parts and not the lines??
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Didn't think it would be a challenge, but I can't seem to find a touch up paint for them...
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Re: Brembo Brakes

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I would have to strongly disagree on that!

After spending all that money on this Brembo SRT brake upgrade why wouldn't you upgrade the OEM rubber lines for another ~ $120.00??

OEM rubber brake lines will expand and flex slightly when pressurized as the brakes are applied. This will get more pronounced as the OEM rubber lines age and begin to deteriorate as the miles add up. S/S brake lines will not expand as the brakes are applied and will not be prone to doing this as they age. All of the hydraulic pressure applied at the pedal will be transferred to the pads with the addition of superior S/S brake lines that will last the life of the vehicle and provide a better braking experience.
Isn't a better braking system the reason one would do this upgrade in the first place?
OK so where do I get them for a 2012 Overland with Brembo's, also when I looked at the front lines there seemed to be another small line or wire that was attached to it and came down along side it..Do you know what that is and will it work with the stainless.
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OK so where do I get them for a 2012 Overland with Brembo's, also when I looked at the front lines there seemed to be another small line or wire that was attached to it and came down along side it..Do you know what that is and will it work with the stainless.
Here you go;

StopTech Brake Lines, StopTech Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines

http://www.buybrakes.com/15010-pv-67...-line-kit.aspx

Never tried the Stoptechs, but I have used several Goodridge kits and highly recommend them! Not really sure what you mean when you say, "there seemed to be another small line or wire that was attached to it and came down along side it"??
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Re: Brembo Brakes

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I would have to strongly disagree on that!

After spending all that money on this Brembo SRT brake upgrade why wouldn't you upgrade the OEM rubber lines for another ~ $120.00??

OEM rubber brake lines will expand and flex slightly when pressurized as the brakes are applied. This will get more pronounced as the OEM rubber lines age and begin to deteriorate as the miles add up. S/S brake lines will not expand as the brakes are applied and will not be prone to doing this as they age. All of the hydraulic pressure applied at the pedal will be transferred to the pads with the addition of superior S/S brake lines that will last the life of the vehicle and provide a better braking experience.
Isn't a better braking system the reason one would do this upgrade in the first place?
Why upgrade the calipers and rotors with superior parts and not the lines??

Call me when you actually have the setup... Then we can talk. I speak from first hand experience on this vehicle with the brembo upgrade and stainless lines. You want mine? I'm selling them cheap brand spanking new in box.
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Call me when you actually have the setup... Then we can talk. I speak from first hand experience on this vehicle with the brembo upgrade and stainless lines. You want mine? I'm selling them cheap brand spanking new in box.
What first hand experience do you mean?.... "brand spanking new in box".....
Which kit?....did you even mount them?

I've been upgrading OEM rubber brake lines to S/S for over 25 years.

I speak with experience from hi HP motorcycles both Jap and American, various sports cars, to every Jeep I've ever owed, that would be three, (3) including the 2012 Overland Summit I'm currently driving.

What issues did you have with the S/S lines??
Did you get the correct S/S brake line kit? Were they bled properly? Did you allow air to enter the ABS system while flushing new fluid into them?

The Goodridge 15010 kit I linked to above works for all WK2 trim levels.

My experience with S/S line upgrades has been excellent. I recommend them to everyone looking for better braking, improved brake firmness & feel with the added bonus of brake lines that will last the life of the vehicle.
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Re: Brembo Brakes

Found this nice write up on SS lines.


Brake lines are only one component in the brake system that transfer fluid from the master cylinder to the brake calipers. The aluminum or steel hard lines that go from the master cylinder to the ABS module also perform this task. As fluid is forced from the master cylinder, there is a pressure increase in the system in which acts upon each and every component in the system as a whole. Rubber brake lines, as they are the only 'relatively' flexible component in the system, will experience some amount of expansion whenever the fluid pressure increases. This causes for a softer pedal feel upon application of the brake.

Stainless steel brake lines reduce this amount of flex experienced in the brake lines. A hard teflon line, which is actually what reduces the expansion of the line, is used to prevent and reduce the expansion in the line. The stainless steel braiding is utilized in effort to protect the teflon line due to its weak resistance to abrasion.

The result offers minimal expansion which 'can' reduce pedal sponge feel, however it depends on the actual conditions of the original rubber brake lines. For example, if you have a relatively brand new car, the difference in feel may be negligible. However, upon extensive exposure to pressure variations within the brake system, these rubber lines become softer and more flexible. Changing out these lines will result in a greater difference in pedal feel and consistency. Also, in motorsports where brake pressure varies greatly and typical application of the brakes results in high system pressure, the use of stainless steel brake lines greatly reduces the degrading of factory/rubber brake lines and improves consistency, pedal firmness and feel.

So in conclusion..heh..they 'can' provide much better brake feel when the rubber lines become more flexible. When swapping out relatively new brake lines however, the difference in feel may be much less. As the brake lines experience more exposure to pressure variances, the difference in pedal feel will be greatly enhanced.
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Found this nice write up on SS lines.


Brake lines are only one component in the brake system that transfer fluid from the master cylinder to the brake calipers. The aluminum or steel hard lines that go from the master cylinder to the ABS module also perform this task. As fluid is forced from the master cylinder, there is a pressure increase in the system in which acts upon each and every component in the system as a whole. Rubber brake lines, as they are the only 'relatively' flexible component in the system, will experience some amount of expansion whenever the fluid pressure increases. This causes for a softer pedal feel upon application of the brake.

Stainless steel brake lines reduce this amount of flex experienced in the brake lines. A hard teflon line, which is actually what reduces the expansion of the line, is used to prevent and reduce the expansion in the line. The stainless steel braiding is utilized in effort to protect the teflon line due to its weak resistance to abrasion.

The result offers minimal expansion which 'can' reduce pedal sponge feel, however it depends on the actual conditions of the original rubber brake lines. For example, if you have a relatively brand new car, the difference in feel may be negligible. However, upon extensive exposure to pressure variations within the brake system, these rubber lines become softer and more flexible. Changing out these lines will result in a greater difference in pedal feel and consistency. Also, in motorsports where brake pressure varies greatly and typical application of the brakes results in high system pressure, the use of stainless steel brake lines greatly reduces the degrading of factory/rubber brake lines and improves consistency, pedal firmness and feel.

So in conclusion..heh..they 'can' provide much better brake feel when the rubber lines become more flexible. When swapping out relatively new brake lines however, the difference in feel may be much less. As the brake lines experience more exposure to pressure variances, the difference in pedal feel will be greatly enhanced.
Yes that's all true...... Did you not believe me when I posted this exact information a couple of minutes ago?
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