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Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza Plus or Michelin Defender LTX M/S

I can't decide between these two tires and was hoping to get some input from the community. I live in Southern CA and 90% of my driving is on the highway.

Buy the cheaper one?

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Old 06-14-2016, 05:54 AM
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I had the alenza for about 2 months and hated them and traded them in on a michelin tour HP, defenders were not out at the time. Im going with the defender next time. Lots of tire threads here you can read about both of them.
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Re: Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza Plus or Michelin Defender LTX M/S

Just installed the Michelin Defender LTX M/S last night (265x60xR18). Still early to tell. Don't seem any noisier then the stock latitudes tour that came with it.
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Re: Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza Plus or Michelin Defender LTX M/S

I've been considering the Alenza and the Pirelli Scorpion Verde Plus for replacements later this summer. The cost is about the same and I'm most likely going to opt for the Pirelli. 99% of my driving is highway, too.
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Re: Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza Plus or Michelin Defender LTX M/S

We've had the Alenza's on our Q5 for about 30k miles and they've be great in three season weather. We haven't had them on in the winter since we run Blizzaks.
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Re: Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza Plus or Michelin Defender LTX M/S

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I live in Southern CA and 90% of my driving is on the highway.
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Do you venture out ofSouthern Ca during the winter? If you do, look into the Michelin Primer LTX. It is more money, however for an all season all weather tire on the highway. It is far better than the Defender.

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Re: Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza Plus or Michelin Defender LTX M/S

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Im going with the defender next time.

Greetings,

Not even giving the Nokian's a chance?

The WRG3 SUV.

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Re: Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza Plus or Michelin Defender LTX M/S

I appreciate the responses. I went with the Defenders. I'll report back with a review when I get some miles on them.
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Greetings,

Not even giving the Nokian's a chance?

The WRG3 SUV.

Best for now.

Just my $0.02 worth, on the Nokians......


My 2015 GC Limited, is my first Jeep. Living in the snowy northeast, and planning on using the GC primarily as a winter vehicle, I put the Nokians on a week after getting the Jeep. Initially I was pretty impressed with them, however, I found myself taking a couple of unplanned "road trips" in the Jeep, and the Nokians' outstanding winter performance has been overshadowed by their less than stellar performance on the interstate, at 70 MPH.

I'm now considering getting a second set of wheels/tires, and some different tires, for summer usage. Too bad I can't get a "summer" tire, rather than an all-season tire.....
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Just my $0.02 worth, on the Nokians......


My 2015 GC Limited, is my first Jeep. Living in the snowy northeast, and planning on using the GC primarily as a winter vehicle, I put the Nokians on a week after getting the Jeep. Initially I was pretty impressed with them, however, I found myself taking a couple of unplanned "road trips" in the Jeep, and the Nokians' outstanding winter performance has been overshadowed by their less than stellar performance on the interstate, at 70 MPH.

I'm now considering getting a second set of wheels/tires, and some different tires, for summer usage. Too bad I can't get a "summer" tire, rather than an all-season tire.....

Greetings,

Interesting, which Nokian's do you have?

I just did trip down to the DC area with my 50k old Rotiva's with average speeds around 75 to 80 on the interstate highway with no problems. In all my updates, I have always found that the dry traction was excellent. The only problem now that I have on the interstate is the level of noise is noticeable. Which is expected with the mileage that I have on them.

I know that member AAAA and others with the WRG3 SUV have report excellent results on the interstate as well.

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Greetings,

Interesting, which Nokian's do you have?

I know that member AAAA and others with the WRG3 SUV have report excellent results on the interstate as well.

Best for now.


I have the WRG3s.......however, I suppose I should qualify my comments, a bit more. Coming out of the sports/muscle car world, as well as the oval track scene, I'll admit that I'm having a little difficulty adjusting to the 5000 pound, higher center of gravity, SUV world.

I've had "4 wheelers" in the past, as winter drivers, but the two I had were a '97 Chevy S-10, followed by an '05 GMC Canyon, both smaller, lighter trucks. My JGC is the first SUV that I've owned/driven, other than a brief drive in a Land Rover, as a loaner vehicle, when my wife's Jag was in the dealership for it's annual service visit.

I took a 700 mile trip, last month, most of it on the Interstate. While the day was relatively calm, on the way to my destination, the trip back home was on a pretty windy day. I felt that I was fighting the vehicle all the way home, and it was a tiring experience. Hence, my search for a wheel/tire combination that affords more straight line stability/cornering ability.



BUT, as I mentioned, the WRGs are very impressive in the snow.....
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I took a 700 mile trip, last month, most of it on the Interstate. While the day was relatively calm, on the way to my destination, the trip back home was on a pretty windy day. I felt that I was fighting the vehicle all the way home, and it was a tiring experience. Hence, my search for a wheel/tire combination that affords more straight line stability/cornering ability.


Greetings,

Understandable.

Like you, here in NYC and the other Northern areas I travel too, I always have to make sure my tire is geared to the winter conditions. Moreover, since the majority of the time I am driving in the other 3 seasons, the tire has to adopt to those conditions as well. One the biggest conditions as you clearly pointed out is dry traction in the wind and cornering capability. Which I consider the 3rd most important aspect to look at for a tire. My 2nd is wind-driven rain and hydroplaning.

The Verrazano–Narrows Bridge by me is what I use as a test to determine how my vehicle handles. It can be extremely windy on that bridge and some of the exit ramps are have a high degree of turning which makes for excellent corner testing. For which my JGC and the Rotiva handle with no problem. This is one of the many features the have impressed me with Nokian.

As more and more tire manufactures are implementing new compounds for the rubber, not all of them handle the same as the traditional oil based rubber. I know that Michelin has been putting more products out recently with new compounds like Nokian has done for years and others are now following suit as well. These compounds produce a softer tread in order get a better grip. Their are many posts in the forum about the concept of softer tires.

As you clarified in your reply, it could be the size and the weight of JGC is different from the previous vehicles you have driven with. I would be safe to say, with those previous vehicles, the tire you had most likely had a harder compound and you were used to those handling aspects. Now with JGC and the WRG3 which is a softer tire more than the Rotiva that I use, gives you a different set of handling conditions that you are having a problem.

What is wried, the concept of a softer tire with today's technology should be able to meet those conditions you are having a problem with. This reminds me of the old generation of winter tires running on hot summer asphalt that gives you a hydroplaning effect. Many used the term of melting for this condition.

What I am curious about, if you to get on the interstate and travel 70 mph for while and you did a moderate stop. How does the JGC handle in those conditions. Just make sure you do this test in a safe place and nobody is behind you.

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