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Decided to pull the trigger on most mods at once

I bought my '11 Limited 4x4 QT II about a month ago.

After some research I had a list. The list was way easier to generate than the one I did for my 98 XJ because by comparison there's only about 1/20th the amount of aftermarket options available for the WK2.

So this is what I bought today:

  • (5) MB TKO 17x8.5 wheels with the option smaller Chaos center caps
  • (5) Toyo Open Country AT II 265/70-17 tires (wheels and tires to be installed Saturday)
  • RRO 2.5" lift
  • RRO front winch bracket
  • RRO Combo Bumper kit
Last week I bought a Surco UB4560 Black Urban Roof Rack that should be here next week some time. So in the last week I've dropped $3500 on parts!


If anyone is curious, I stuck with a 265 tire so the spare would fit in the well without the floor riding high. Also, a 17" tire gives a bit more sidewall to smooth out the rough stuff, and the 17's are about $40 a tire cheaper than the equivalent OD 18" version. This is my DD, and I spend most of my time on pavement, and I want everything to be tucked away.

Later I want to add the Trailhawk matte black hood decal, and the Mopar rock sliders. I'll also get some skids as time goes by, and hopefully a Chief front protector set up.

To illustrate the difference on the wheel caps, the following pics show the difference. The first pic is the larger "standard" center caps, which stick out too far for my tastes and take away the depth of the wheel. The second pick is the smaller caps on the same wheel.







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Re: Decided to pull the trigger on most mods at once

Okay, so I got the wheels and tires on Saturday. For anyone wondering about the "what fits", here are some details.

This is a Limited WITHOUT the heavy duty brakes, which have larger calipers. Because of this, I could fit many 17 inch wheels instead of the stock 18"

These wheels are MB TKO 17x8.5 with +18 offset and the optional smaller center caps (one wheel cap was backordered). The factory 18x8 wheels were a 64 offset, so doing the math, you get a 46mm difference, or about 1.5 inches. Then add another 1/4" (half of the 1/2" overall width increase, and these wheels are stick out about 1.75" inches further than the stock wheels.

The tires are Toyo Open Country AT II's at 265/70-17 (31.5" OD). As you can see from the pics, they crowd the wheel wells a bit, especially in front. Once I install the 2.5" RRO lift it will help a lot. So far there has been no rubbing at all lock to lock on street driving.

It definitely gives it a wider, more aggressive stance. The tires ride smooth, and are certainly no louder than the Michelin street tires it had on it before.

I was disappointed to find that this wheel/tire combo will NOT fit in the factory spare tire storage area. It causes the floor to stick up about 3/4" which sets my OCD off. I have put my factory donut (big donut) back in there for now. There's a chance that 255 on an 8" wide wheel would have fit.

Again, the pics are PRE LIFT.







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Re: Decided to pull the trigger on most mods at once

I like the look your going for,definitely a wider stance and already looks real cool without a lift,were it me,might just leave it as is if it's just street use,in any event,very cool set up and tasteful too,will be interested,along with most of the forum,when you post the finished look,especially with the roof rack too.You putting a LED light bar up top too?Have see them on,look pretty good too.All the best on your mods,it's looking very cool.
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Re: Decided to pull the trigger on most mods at once

Thanks. Before buying the GC I had done some research, and found that the aftermarket options are pretty limited compared to other Jeeps. Given that, I created my list of mods I wanted to do, and then one night when researching how best to run wiring for roof rack lights, I stumbled on pics of BigCat's GC, and it was like we were reading each others minds. His is very similar to what I had planned for mine, and they are even the same color.

After weeks and being given the run-around, I finally got confirmation on Friday that my Surco rack has shipped, and should be here Wednesday. I'll probably put it on next weekend. I bought my lift, winch plate and bumper plate from Rocky Road Outfitters about 10 days ago, and haven't heard a peep form them. I'll probably call them on Monday to remind them the most important part of customer service is communication.

I have noticed that the heavier wheel/tire combo, along with a larger diameter has dropped my average MPG down about 1.5 MPG. Nothing I can't live with, and still better mileage than my 98 XJ.
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Re: Decided to pull the trigger on most mods at once

I am guessing,as time goes on,more aftermarket products will become available, sure the products will never be as prolific as Wranglers and Unlimiteds,but few manufacturers take up the challenge straight away,RRO have some damn good products but are hit or miss supplying some products,(other posters noted RRO were real slow with winches and didn't keep customers informed/updated as much as they should),nevertheless they are a good company with some killer products.
Really don't want to mess with my '15 as I consider it perfect at this time,but my '11 I will soon start with some toys,I really like the look and stance the SRT8 rims give the JGC(few guys and girls on the forum have gone that route) but your set up has definitely given me pause for thought as the stance you have achieved thus far is more aggressive and makes way more of a statement as have many others on this forum.Dont know if you have seen the guys who did the hidden winch system looks GREAT,some have had issues some have not, a lot noted it looked kinda unfinished due to no trim either side of the bumper when done.Personally I thought the finished product looked awesome.If I remember right the issues arise for those that have the sensor mounted in the lower plastic grill,but again,the finish is awesome.I just have a hitch mounted winch I can switch between Jeeps.Although I wouldn't mind a front hidden winch like others,it's just beyond my expertise (actually just plain lazy!) to install and it's tough finding an installer in my area who can and is willing to undertake the job and stand behind their work.Anyway,carry on the cool work,and it IS cool what you are doing.
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Re: Decided to pull the trigger on most mods at once

Really came out nice. Like you title says... sometimes the best way to do things is just like pulling a bandaid off. Do it now & do it fast
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Re: Decided to pull the trigger on most mods at once

I'm a big fan of the rims. I just ordered a new Grand Cherokee and my wife hates the factory rims, so I'll be looking for something different. That's a good look.
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Re: Decided to pull the trigger on most mods at once

I got some news today. Looks like my Surco rack will be here Wednesday for sure. The Rocky Road Outfitters lift, winch plate, and combo bumper won't even ship till the end of next week at the earliest. I placed my order the night of the 10th.
I told the guy I spoke with that if that was their typical lead time, I was okay with that. But I also suggested that if someone pays you nearly $1300, it would probably be a good idea to inform them up front of the lead time, and also stay in touch every week or so with reminders and updates. Instead of hearing nothing at all, which makes people nervous. He said he understood my point.

I also wanted to make a product recommendation...
I've used Husky Liners in my XJ, and had some other custom fit brand I can't remember in my '02 TJ before I sold it. They both worked well at keeping the dirt off the carpet, but didn't exactly have the greatest fit. I've seen Weathertech in our company trucks, and they fit well and look nice, but are pricey. They also have big grooves and lugs in them, which is fine for me. But if you have a wife that wears high heels, she'll get her heels stuck in those big grooves all the time.

Last July I got my wife a set of 3D Maxpider Kagu rubber mats for her RAV4. She has RAVED about them, and I have to admit, they look really sharp, stay in place (unlike Husky Liners), are easy to clean, and have a really nice fit. I've been so impressed by them that I bought a set for the GC, and they have been great. Everyone that gets inside comments on them.
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Re: Decided to pull the trigger on most mods at once

More updates.

It took some research, and about 4 hours of custom modifying the Surco cargo rack mounting hardware to work with the factory Mopar cross bars, but I now have a rack.

Actually, I bought clones of the Mopar cross bars for $99 on Amazon, which is considerably cheaper than any Rhino, Yakima, or Thule options.

I like the Surco Urban rack. It's all aluminum, including the corner pieces (never have to worry about it rusting and it's light enough I can lift it on and off myself if need be), has a pretty durable powder coat finish instead of just paint, and it has wide floor slats with good coverage that run front to rear. This F to R layout is important to me as I'm always at Home Depot buying lumber of sheet goods for my home remodeling projects, and the F/R slat layout makes it easy to slide things in and out of the rack without snagging or messing up the edges of the material being loaded/unloaded.

There are 14 aluminum t-nuts that are designed to slide into the standard cross bars that come with the Surco rack. I had to grind and notch each one of these so that they would slide into the Mopar cross bars. I had to use the Mopar cross bars because Surco does not have an adapter/mount kit that fits the WK2 with its flush rails. Again, half a day of work, but its on, it's straight , and it's tight. I'll fab up some kind of axe and shovel mounts later. Wind noise is nominal. I might try to fabricate and wind fairing for it later.

Also, with the help of my wife, I installed an OEM Trailhawk hood decal. not difficult, just time consuming and we had to be careful and thorough.

The RRO lift came in today. I'm still waiting on the front winch mount from them. I wait till I have it all here to install it.

Later, when I have time to properly fabricate a wiring harness with Weatherpak connectors, I'll wire up the LED light pods I have and get them mounted on the rack. I have one flood pod for each side, two flood pods for the rear, and two spot beam pods for the front. I also picked up some laser-etched switches that are LED backlit in green to match the rest of the interior accent lighting.

Here's a few picks of the progress. Not bad for only having owned it 6 weeks.






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Re: Decided to pull the trigger on most mods at once

You made quick work there! Keep it up!
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Re: Decided to pull the trigger on most mods at once

Looks great! Just an fyi you forgot to cover up your license plate this time.
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Re: Decided to pull the trigger on most mods at once

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Looks great! Just an fyi you forgot to cover up your license plate this time.
Yeah. I've decided I'm not overly concerned about it. I live in one of the most populated areas of the country, and it's on display in my daily commute for anyone that cares to snap a photo with their phone.

I'm not sure what harm anyone could do me. It's parked in the garage every night, I work in IT and have a high-tech security system and outdoor and indoor cameras, I'm a big burly son of a gun with forearms bigger than most guys biceps, I have a 150 pound Mastiff that guards the house, and I keep several loaded guns in the house. They should be scared of me, not the other way around.
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