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Re: DIY homemade air suspension links. Install with pics!

I wonder if something is different with the modules that these attach to.

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I wonder if something is different with the modules that these attach to.
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Re: DIY homemade air suspension links. Install with pics!

Yeah could be something different in the sensor as well, but it's still the same old design and I just don't see how or why a different length link wouldn't do the job. I'm still pretty certain that the links will work for a 2016, but he just needs to find the right length. I would still bent on that the new links might need to be opposite what they were on earlier years. On 2015 models to lower the vehicle you lengthen the fronts by 1/4", and shorten the rears by a 1/4" (to lower it about an inch overall).
Maybe the 2016 requires you to do the opposite. if I had a 2016 here is what I would do first. First, try and figure out the rears as we already know the fronts seem to be sensitive to incorrect lengths. So figure out what you need to do to the rear links to lower the vehicle first, then start working on the fronts. Make the new front links maybe 1/4" shorter than original and see what happens.

As far as the new 2016 OEM links, it almost seems like they are cheaper than the earlier ones. It sounds like they are kind of flimsy. The 2014-2015 ones are a strong (but very light weight) aluminum type tubing with sealed end sockets that do not rotate. Viciously they don't need to be anything fancy as they don't do anything but give suspension height info to the sensor, but still, just an observation.
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Re: DIY homemade air suspension links. Install with pics!

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FYI everyone - James & i discovered this weekend that his links will NOT work as designed on a '16. i had no idea what the stock '15 links looked like and he had no idea what the '16 links looked like, so we were both surprised to discover they are vastly different. apparently, earlier years used a curved link while the '16s use a straight link. see the attachment - stock links are black, james' are silver. his front links start out 5" total length - this pic was taken after hours of messing with it - shortening a little, trying again, shortening a little, trying again. i got it down to 11.8cm (~4.65") and it still didn't work. by "didn't work", i mean the car would cycle through all suspension positions no problem EXCEPT "Entry/Exit". it would just flash with the down arrow indefinitely and never get there.

james was extremely helpful during this process. certainly not his fault, and he doesn't have a '16 to test on. he suggested i leave his rear links on and try the stock front links to eliminate variables. did this, no issues. so, where we ended up is that when i have some time i'm going to try to disassemble his link and mess with lengths on my own to see what eventually works, if anything. i'm posting this pic in case someone with more time and/or knowledge/skill wants to give it a shot first. please let us all know if you have something that works on a '16.
If you or anyone have any updates let us know! I'm picking up a '16 HA today and was pumped to see such a cheap mod that looked so good. Kinda bummed when I read you were having trouble with the the front ends.
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Re: DIY homemade air suspension links. Install with pics!

Got mine installed in my 15 summit. Having some issues finding the perfect length for the front. Front links are 5.25 and the rear is 2.875
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Wow @bardugle! Your Jeep looks fantastic! Everything looks great as is, what are your issues?
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Re: DIY homemade air suspension links. Install with pics!

Sometimes it wont go into entry park setting and a service air suspension immediately pops up. Gonna have to raise it up a bit which I dont wanna do cause i love this look and I get better gas mileage on the hwy.
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Re: DIY homemade air suspension links. Install with pics!

I think you're running into what I've surmised as "practical limits" for this method of lowering, bardugle. But darn...that do look good!

I have to say that I'm extremely pleased with this mod on my own JGC...that 1" with the "standard length" that James provided me is helping me a lot with easier entry/exit, etc. I'll see in a few weeks when I have some serious business travel scheduled if there is any highway mileage improvement over the 20-21 I typically get in warmer weather.
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Sometimes it wont go into entry park setting and a service air suspension immediately pops up. Gonna have to raise it up a bit which I dont wanna do cause i love this look and I get better gas mileage on the hwy.
Gotcha, yeah it does look incredible. Who is the wheel manufacturer? Maybe just get under there and give each link 1 turn, nothing crazy. Then monitor everytime you drive until you hit a acceptable height for you and the comp.
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They are black diamond bd3 22x10.5. Ive been tinkering with it for a couple weeks already I might be close. Its super finicky
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If you or anyone have any updates let us know! I'm picking up a '16 HA today and was pumped to see such a cheap mod that looked so good. Kinda bummed when I read you were having trouble with the the front ends.
you and me both. was a bummer. honestly, with my upcoming schedule, i probably won't even look at this again for a couple months. i will certainly update if/when i have success. wouldn't even have thought about some of the things i've done without this place and happy to give back.
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Wow that Summit looks pretty cool, but yeah you are definitely pushing the limit there like Jim in PA stated. Once it starts giving you the errors and wont lower into entry/exit setting its time to adjust the lengths a bit. You will need to shorten the fronts from what you have them set at, and to keep the rake you will have to adjust the rears longer the same amount. Maybe just go one turn for each ball socket and start with that. Keep doing until the suspension works properly.
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