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Don't know which tire to buy

Any thoughts on these (Dueler H/L Alenza Plus) as a replacement for my stock Goodyear Fortera HL 265/50R20? Both in the same category on tirerack. Dueler's are #1 and Goodyears #13. Seems like a no brainer but the Dueler's have a fraction of the reviews when compared to the Goodyears.

I'd stick with the Goodyears but people always seem to bash the OE, but mainly if these Dueler's are actually better then why not. That and I can get the Dueler's at Costco for convenience. They don't sell Goodyears or other exotic brands.

If there was a much better all season tire then I would consider something else.

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Old 03-14-2015, 02:50 PM
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Re: Dueler H/L Alenza Plus

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Any thoughts on these (Dueler H/L Alenza Plus) as a replacement for my stock Goodyear Fortera HL 265/50R20? Both in the same category on tirerack. Dueler's are #1 and Goodyears #13. Seems like a no brainer but the Dueler's have a fraction of the reviews when compared to the Goodyears.

I'd stick with the Goodyears but people always seem to bash the OE, but mainly if these Dueler's are actually better than why not. That and I can get the Dueler's at Costco for convenience. They don't sell Goodyears or other exotic brands.

If there was a much better all season tire then I would consider something else.
I have a bad story about Dueler H/L Alenza, I thought the same thing when I was buying tires about a year ago good tire rack ratings must be a good tire right. Well I bought them 265/50R20 and could not get them to stop shaking on the highway after countless road force balancing they sent 3 of the 4 back for having too much road force still with the replacements they could not get them to stop shaking. I also found them hard as a rock you felt every tiny little bump or road joint. after a few months and a thousand miles of trying to get them smooth I had just had it and gave up. Purchased 265/50R20 Michelin Latitude Tour HP(little different tread pattern then the latitude tour that comes on the 18 inch wheel jeeps so don't compare to those). HPs were smooth as glass first time out the door and have been great ever since. They are quieter, smoother, handle better and better in the snow then the forteras. Wish I had just bought the Michelins instead of those Alenzas and saved all that trouble.
Bridgestone corporate was terrible to deal with on the issues also complete assholes once they got your money, I will never buy a Bridgestone again after the way they handled that whole thing.

One bit of advice I have when reading reviews is try to sift through the reviews and find ones that review the tire on the same car and same size you have. good tires on one car and size can be rotten tire on other cars and size.

If you are in a higher snow climate the Nokian WR G3 SUV 265/50R20 is an all season with emphasis on snow that is a good choice. If snow is not as much a concern then the Michelin Latitude Tour HP that I got is an excellent quiet smooth highway cruiser. HP is ok on snow I was doing fine in 8 inches on the road this winter but get the nokians if you are going to be in a decent amount of snow climate. Good Luck
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Re: Dueler H/L Alenza Plus

Thanks for the feedback. I'm in Maryland so we get a hand full of snow/ice storms during the winter. Decent amount of rain I suppose.

Now I'm torn. That tire was also one of my choices. Your experience with the Michelins is the polar opposite of some other jeep owners. I was reading complains about hydroplaning and poor snow performance but you haven't experienced any of that.

My other alternative are the Continental CrossContact LX20's. They are #2 on tiretrack under the same category as the other tires but with more of a user feedback base.
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Old 03-15-2015, 10:24 AM
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Re: Dueler H/L Alenza Plus

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Thanks for the feedback. I'm in Maryland so we get a hand full of snow/ice storms during the winter. Decent amount of rain I suppose.

Now I'm torn. That tire was also one of my choices. Your experience with the Michelins is the polar opposite of some other jeep owners. I was reading complains about hydroplaning and poor snow performance but you haven't experienced any of that.

My other alternative are the Continental CrossContact LX20's. They are #2 on tiretrack under the same category as the other tires but with more of a user feedback base.
Well remember now the Michelin Latitude Tour 18s that people are complaining about on here are different then the Michelin Latitude Tour HP 20s that I am talking about. Latitude Tour HP have a little different tread pattern, I live in the same area as you and I had no issues at all this winter driving through 8 inches of snow on unplowed streets or the sleety..icy..slushy messes we get around here. They are ok for winter and fine for this area but they are not a snow tire and if you are in a heavy snow climate there are better choices in an all season like the nokian I mentioned.
As far as hydroplaning you mention I have not had any of that, currently I have about 10,000 miles on the tires.

There is another member on here named Willx with the same Michelin Latitude Tour HP 265/50R20s on his 2014 Summit that I have. A year or two back I remember him stating that he was also happy with the tires. He has moderator status on here and opinions are well respected. you could message him and ask him for his thoughts as well.

The Continental CrossContact LX20's are a good one to consider also at the time I was buying they did not have them in the 265/50R20 size or I would have considered them. LX20s have had some good reports on here so probably a good choice also. Whichever you decide to go with I would just stay away from the Alenza that was a bad experience.
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Re: Dueler H/L Alenza Plus

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Thanks for the feedback. I'm in Maryland so we get a hand full of snow/ice storms during the winter. Decent amount of rain I suppose.

Now I'm torn. That tire was also one of my choices. Your experience with the Michelins is the polar opposite of some other jeep owners. I was reading complains about hydroplaning and poor snow performance but you haven't experienced any of that.

My other alternative are the Continental CrossContact LX20's. They are #2 on tiretrack under the same category as the other tires but with more of a user feedback base.

Greetings,

The Michelin Latitude HP's are suppose to have a softer tire compound than the OE tire Lat's. As far as I know, for the highway category, the Michelin M/S2 do are better job in snow & ice environments primary because of the extra siping on the tread block. Personally, I am not a fan of Michelin and BFG when it comes to SUV, CUV or pickup trunks any longer.

With the Conti's again you will get mixed reviews despite on what you see on Tirerack. They traditional run with a hard tire compound which is not the ideal situation for your area and travels. With the Tirerack reviews, zero in the reports from the snow & ice regions.

If snow and ice are your main concern with a all season tire, then look for labels that today are saying all weather. These tire compounds are softer, offer more siping and improved tread block design. As member SILVERMAX04 suggested look into Nokian and even check the Nitto tires. And the other pointed mentioned try find reviews with you same size for the other issues.

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Greetings,

The Michelin Latitude HP's are suppose to have a softer tire compound than the OE tire Lat's. As far as I know, for the highway category, the Michelin M/S2 do are better job in snow & ice environments primary because of the extra siping on the tread block. Personally, I am not a fan of Michelin and BFG when it comes to SUV, CUV or pickup trunks any longer.

With the Conti's again you will get mixed reviews despite on what you see on Tirerack. They traditional run with a hard tire compound which is not the ideal situation for your area and travels. With the Tirerack reviews, zero in the reports from the snow & ice regions.

If snow and ice are your main concern with a all season tire, then look for labels that today are saying all weather. These tire compounds are softer, offer more siping and improved tread block design. As member SILVERMAX04 suggested look into Nokian and even check the Nitto tires. And the other pointed mentioned try find reviews with you same size for the other issues.

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Wish they did have the michelin LTX M/S2 in the stock 20 size that would be my first choice. M/S2 is the best all around tire in my opinion.
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Wish they did have the michelin LTX M/S2 in the stock 20 size that would be my first choice. M/S2 is the best all around tire in my opinion.
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I am really surprised that they never had a 20 inch offering in their inventory for your size.

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I am really surprised that they never had a 20 inch offering in their inventory for your size.

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I wish they did they would be on my jeep now. I check evrry once in a while to see if they added them in that size but not so far.
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Re: Dueler H/L Alenza Plus

I just installed the Continental CrossContact LX20 on my 2015 Overland in the 20" size.

For what its worth, the OE Goodyears really aren't that bad of a tire at all, they ride reasonably well and are pretty quiet as well in my opinion. Once the goodyears were off the car you could really feel how soft the sidewalls are (they were very very pliable sans pressure). Sure they are old tech, but so are the Michelin LTX M/S which are still great tires.

However, very happy with the Contis. They do ride a bit better and are quieter on concrete roads - time will tell how well they hold up. Not enough data yet to see if they are in fact more 'eco' friendly with their ecotech feature that promises better fuel economy.
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Re: Dueler H/L Alenza Plus

I have the Dueler Alenza Plus on my GC. I've had them for six months or so and love them. They are a very capable tire and very quiet. They seem to be wearing well.
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