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Eibach All-terrain Lift Kit

Not cheap lol. I'm definitely not going to make any money selling the coil over. Mayb like $50 a shock becuz u guys will pay for my r&d on developing the shock profile. I'll make my money selling the whole kit as a package. Rear coils , sway bars, control arms etc. it will be bad ass. Trust me. I'm going for more of a Dakar rally setup. I've been on top of this as much as I can. Doesn't help that king shock takes here sweet as time.

As far as me, I'm just an average guy that has been around the performance suspension industry for a min and have help developed performance suspension for Thuren fabrication. Don thuren of thuren fabrication, is helping me with the development of this. Google him. Basically I'm his r&d guy. But now I want to do my own, and no one really has the performance part of it locked down for the grand Cherokee. It's all looks. Yes you gain some performance because you can clear bigger tires and have a little more travel , but it's not setup for high speed stuff. High speed setups do better in slow stuff. The slow speed suspension setups don't do well at high speeds

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Old 03-12-2015, 11:43 AM
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Eibach All-terrain Lift Kit

I'll have kits from just a coil to raise the front using the OEM strut or full on coil over on all ends. But that's coming down the line. Right now I'm focusing on the front coilover from king shock to match the rear coil I have being made.
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Re: Eibach All-terrain Lift Kit

Nice. Sounds like a promising kit then.

Have you seen Icon Vehicle Dynamics kit though? Seems like exactly the kind of performance setup that you are talking about, for higher speed desert type racing...

Icon Dynamics 2.5" Coilover kit
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Nice. Sounds like a promising kit then.

Have you seen Icon Vehicle Dynamics kit though? Seems like exactly the kind of performance setup that you are talking about, for higher speed desert type racing...

Icon Dynamics 2.5" Coilover kit
Yes i have ...

...basically same concept, but we will have real world testing(not that they dont). im talking about what can i break etc. Not just gathering up old data and some new data and developing through theory etc. That kit looks good, but it will come down to understanding valving profiles and spring rates and developing different stages in those valving profiles to cater to the end user , not what I think one should have.

But yeah, anyone can make a suspension kit and good components, but to make it work to its fullest, the R&d needs to be brutal. And i know they dont test like we do

Just do some research on Thuren Fabrication and CArlisuspension. We understand suspension
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Yes i have ...

...basically same concept, but we will have real world testing(not that they dont). im talking about what can i break etc. Not just gathering up old data and some new data and developing through theory etc. That kit looks good, but it will come down to understanding valving profiles and spring rates and developing different stages in those valving profiles to cater to the end user , not what I think one should have.

But yeah, anyone can make a suspension kit and good components, but to make it work to its fullest, the R&d needs to be brutal. And i know they dont test like we do

Just do some research on Thuren Fabrication and CArlisuspension. We understand suspension
Interesting. Thanks for the info!

Definitely keep us updated. I may have to wait out getting anything until I see what you come up with.
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Forgot to mention fox shocks mayb the end shock I use as they and thuren fab have a better biz relationship and thuren is pushing me to use fox farther then king shocks. I just always loved king shocks. They just take a long time
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Re: Eibach All-terrain Lift Kit

Hey Dom - I have a rear set of dobinsons springs that I shipped in from Austrailia if your interested. 40mm or about 2" of lift.


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Hey Dom - I have a rear set of dobinsons springs that I shipped in from Austrailia if your interested. 40mm or about 2" of lift.


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Do u know the spring rate! Progressive or linear?

The one I'm having
made is more like 1.5 " raise. And spring rate is ninja squirrel stuff for now , but I'm doing linear
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Yes i have ...

...basically same concept, but we will have real world testing(not that they dont). im talking about what can i break etc. Not just gathering up old data and some new data and developing through theory etc. That kit looks good, but it will come down to understanding valving profiles and spring rates and developing different stages in those valving profiles to cater to the end user , not what I think one should have.

But yeah, anyone can make a suspension kit and good components, but to make it work to its fullest, the R&d needs to be brutal. And i know they dont test like we do

Just do some research on Thuren Fabrication and CArlisuspension. We understand suspension
With only a limited amount of wheel travel built into the suspension design, what are you doing to change it? No matter what way you lift it, spacer or coilover, your just taking away from the down travel right?
A full on lift would be awesome or even just a longer a arm setup like on a ford Raptor would be nice.
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With only a limited amount of wheel travel built into the suspension design, what are you doing to change it? No matter what way you lift it, spacer or coilover, your just taking away from the down travel right?

A full on lift would be awesome or even just a longer a arm setup like on a ford Raptor would be nice.

Yes. It's being lifted by a coil over .

The coil over is not setup like the OEM strut. Yes. Adding a lift coil to the OEM strut will limit droop because you will move the piston in the shock closer to bottom of shock body.

Adding a lift spacer will push the whole stir body down I turn creating a lift. But you still maintain stock ( OEM travel).

I am having a special coil over made that has a slight longer shock body that allows for more travel because the shocks piston has more area to move.

The plan is to build longer control arms and / a spindle that allows the wheels to sit out further by 1/2" total (both spindle and control arms. ). But just even the starter kit, there will be the option to add the upper control arm with a high end spherical joint to allow a more free flowing movement.
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Full on lift would not be good to me in my honest opinion. I hate those lifts that drop your control arms with a bracket in turn lifting it. That is the worst possible way to go at a performance suspension.

The rear end gets it lift from the actual coil and the shock will have more body for the piston to move ( droop and or full bump travel )
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Yes. It's being lifted by a coil over .

The coil over is not setup like the OEM strut. Yes. Adding a lift coil to the OEM strut will limit droop because you will move the piston in the shock closer to bottom of shock body.

Adding a lift spacer will push the whole stir body down I turn creating a lift. But you still maintain stock ( OEM travel).

I am having a special coil over made that has a slight longer shock body that allows for more travel because the shocks piston has more area to move.

The plan is to build longer control arms and / a spindle that allows the wheels to sit out further by 1/2" total (both spindle and control arms. ). But just even the starter kit, there will be the option to add the upper control arm with a high end spherical joint to allow a more free flowing movement.
That's going to be nice. How long?
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