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#7 ·
Should have just gone RRO 2.5" for half the price you get an extra .5" and factory ride quality since you aren't changing springs.
 
#8 ·
Im excited to hear about your experiences.. When's the install, are you doing it yourself?

Some people don't and won't understand the difference between a full replacement suspension and simply a BB. You can enjoy the extra plates and pieces that create your "lift" I'm going to use a full replacement set to taylor the lift and its abilities to my needs.. The guys at Dobinson offer 5 different spring rates from mildly stiffer than stock to 500lb increased spring rate for armored vehicles, and the same for the rear. Ever pull a lightweight but tall trailer? a better spring rate will make that easier.
There's the fact that the shocks are tailored to the springs travel, and in OME's case there just that much better built usually..
OME also offers its lifts suited to 3.6-5.7, Bull bar or not, winch, Hd, MD, etc.

I know a stock ride with a BB. Which isn't a selling point to me as the WK2 is now 2.25" taller, it's getting blown around on stock shocks working harder than designed to, and stock soft springs swaying in the wind.. I know you're fine, catch a cross wind in a lifted Jeep in the wrong place... But stock above its limits is fine, I heard..

Most of you will be on to whatever flavor is next by the time your BB has caused it's damage. So for a short term it'll be fine. A BB works fine, but its in no way a sophisticated approach to ride quality and ability, it's a cheap way to get lifted, I prefer to spend the money on a more well rounded method that will offer more benefits.
A well designed suspension takes into account angles, bushings, spring lengths, shock travel, and such. A BB just jacks it up. It works though.. I just don't want a stock ride at this height, I want a stronger more capable one.
 
#9 ·
Dude it's a two inch lift. Stop pretending ur gonna notice the differnce between a spacer or a full spring. This isn't a solid axle truck... Especially for an extra 600 bucks over the spacers. IFS ruined the game there's no point in throwing all that money at it for something you'll never benefit from.
 
#10 ·
So you're saying that my jeep with spring rates 200 to 300 pounds higher than stock and a shock tuned for that, won't reduce the negative effects of lift greater than your jeep 2.25" inches taller than stock with the stock shocks and springs?

And the roll center being changed but not the dampening or the spring rate doesn't have a negative effect at all with stock shocks and springs.

And that wind won't affect our jeeps differently as far as stability?

Just making sure I hear you correctly.

Please talk to me about solid axle vehicles I've been lifting them since 1989 from BB to LA's and everything around there. And this point had nothing to do with a BB on one vs another.
 
#11 ·
A higher spring rate on the the WK2 will hurt your already limited articulation unless your increasing the vehicle weight. It will handle better for sure as the springs are stiffer and the progressive rate is probably higher as well. The shocks are terrible at best and should be upgraded for sure even for everyday driving I think. The nose dive on them with the Hemi is not good.
I would still go with the Eibach kit vs the spacer kit but mainly for the shocks and my hatred of spacer lifts:D
 
#12 ·
Not that I need to justify my purchase but the reason I bought the eibach kit is because my factory "performance" shocks are shot at 38K miles. My Jeep currently has terrible ride quality. It made no sense to me to replace factory suspension just to add a BB on top of it.

I will be running the same wheel/tire combo I already have on my jeep. 275/55 R20 Cooper Zeon LTZ on OE Wheels SRT8 Replica Wheel.

I will doing the install myself and I am going to try and take pictures for people who may be interested in this kit in the future.
 
#13 ·
You can fit 285/50/20 wheels at stock height and who says you can't change dampers with the spacers ? Sounds good do whatever you would like but for all that money if be going bigger and cheaper instead.
 
#14 · (Edited)
No one says you can't change dampers and add spacers. I simply said I don't want to do that. I was never happy with stock ride quality so I wanted a change. I am not interested in going bigger.

Also, the Eibach kit is the exact same price as the Premium lift from RRO. I would prefer to get 4 new springs and dampers with a million mile warranty vs. a set of spacers and LCA's.
 
#15 · (Edited)
WTF are you doing a lift and adding 20" street tires for? Rofl, sometimes I laugh at this place.

Arguing over the RRO lift vs. the Eibach, on a vehicle that will be running street tires and never see off-road, what's the point?
 
#17 ·
Zeons are an all terrain/on road hybrid tire. Considering the fact that its my daily driver it makes perfect sense to have a tire that performs well on a paved road. I've had Goodyear MT/R's, Mickey Thompson Baja Claws, and Goodrich M/Ts and these coopers have been my favorite tire on any Jeep that I've owned.
 
#23 · (Edited)
It's ironic anyone picking apart a lifted WK2 with street tires as a "laughing at this place" moment. By the same token, and way more rightfully, the entire off road community, read not dusty road BS but stair steps waterfalls and truggy's, 60's, and cages. We laugh our asses off at rich kids modifying unibody AWD shiny golf carts with puny suspensions that even at full bore are a joke on anything but supply trails. Wait no we actually love them because they are expressions of individuality. I'ts the arrogant putzes that talk smack about the "right" vs. "wrong" way to do it that annoy the crap out of us.
But hey to each his own not everyone can be cool. I'm going 3" and puttin 22" rubber bands on mine. Enjoy your GC and make it yours. Keep us updated on the eibach stuff, I'm really excited to hear about the ride quality.
 
#24 ·
Just got my Eibach lift delivered Tuesday. Want to start it now as I have three days off but have to golf this afternoon. If the beer cart stays away I might start it when I get home. Ill take pics as well.

I am not worried as I have lifted and lowered several coilover vehicles, but was curious to the OP if they got more than one page of instructions?

Im going to go with 265/65-18 as I am staying on the stock wheels and that will be just over an inch bigger than stock. I had the Falken Wild peaks on my f150 and they got the job done in the mud. Tire guy is pushing me towards the Yokohamas
 
#27 · (Edited)
I wouldn't put 22's +.5" on anything besides a semi. my point was judgmental people on this board are the point of judgment on another. WK2's are glorified minivans, what we call wheeling is a fire road to the off road community.. 70+ years ago on 3" wide rock hard tires with 30hp? People did things Wk's would get stuck in no doubt. It was called the road home.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nq2jY1trxqg
They did the same thing that takes what? 33's on a $40k modified vehicle, No . There's such a negligible difference in ability between a stock jeep and "modified" one it's funny. Mud being a minor exception. The difference is balls and body damage.
These Jeeps are pretty, and just look that much better when made unique. I saw a lowered WK2 the other day, looked awesome, and I dislike lowered suv's but it sat perfect.
I'll see if I can get a pic... this SoFla there's a guy around Pompano on 28's and they're destroying it, but he likes it. Or should I say he pimps it?

What we think we know is relative, what we like will change, what we accept and respect is our choice..
 
#28 ·
WK2's are glorified minivans, what we call wheeling is a laugh to the off road community..There's such a negligible difference between in ability between a stock jeep and "modified" one it's funny. Mud being a minor exception, and thats 90% tire. The difference is balls and body damage.
...

These Jeeps are pretty, and just look that much better when made unique. I saw a lowered WK2 the other day, looked awesome, and I dislike lowered suv's but it sat perfect.
This guy knows what I'm saying. Thank you. :clap:
 
#30 ·
I apologize this was not meant to be disparaging or disrespectful, the opposite. I love the fact that people are keeping the WK2 off the beaten path even though Jeep is making it harder and harder. What I'm mocking is the all knowing stuff in a community like this is hilarious, a WK2 owner talking about right vs. wrong when it comes to lifts and tire types is like Prius owners debating which drag slick to use.
You're still slow.

We should be encouraging and open to all instead of thinking we know better when "we" are pretty new to this world apparently. My tools, welder, and workspace are open to anyone local that needs a hand. Boca, FL

A stock and a modified wk2 will differ in only 2 parts that affect "ability". Tires and a BB or not, so really, nothing else affects "ability" right? My WJ had a few body panels, most of the interior, and a gas tank left stock when I was done but guys on BB's used to tell me all the time what tires to use. It was the only non stock WJ engine swap ever and it still runs. Just had an awesome time, and so many great people helped build it. Not all of them thought it was a good idea, but their positivity made it work... Be positive even for painted calipers and 22's.

The fact that with that few differences there are so many bad ass looking and individual jeeps is awesome.. Each one gives motivation in some small way.
Next week you may read his reviews and go nuts and buy it..
Which is where my point derails, these jeeps are very capable at what they do, and some will push them into areas they do not belong, only someone with no regard for repair costs abuses a $35k+ luxury vehicle. But that's not wheeling it's youthful stupidity. Anything this jeep will get into comfortably it will get out of, it is a very capable driveline.
Wheeling is different for all. camping, picture taking, goofing off, getting dirty,and seeing things you can't see near pavement. Take a ride around the rim sometimes. Just not in a wk2
Dang I talk a lot.. Sorry I'm waiting for the mail man to bring my light bar for this weekends install..
 
#32 ·
..a WK2 owner talking about right vs. wrong when it comes to lifts and tire types is like Prius owners debating which drag slick to use.
You're still slow..
Nah that analogy doesn't work at all IMO. Your making it too black and white. The lift and tire types will and can make a stock GC more capable off road and in winter, etc. so the talk is valid. The drag strip is all about speed and the Prius is not, so yeah I get that. Don't get me started on the Prius. I get stock behind plenty of them going 50 in the HOV lane. LOL.
 
#31 ·
I am lifting mine for the purpose of bigger tires. 275/65-18. I'll most likely never take it off road but want tires for driving in snow during winter months and want the somewhat aggressive look. Everybody is entitled to there own opinion some will like it some won't. It's your own jeep do what you want to do to it. I've done the lowered scene with my summer tuner car and will the same with my Camaro SS once I finish all the power mods. If I wanted a lowered jeep I would've gotten a srt. I am interested in seeing the people who bought this kit opinions on it.
 
#33 · (Edited)
I liked my analogy, inaccurate but a humorous illustration of stupidity and futility? I'm definitely no Einstein with words even though i use enough of 'em. :D

I have video somewhere of a Jeep club trip up to Ocala, 10 lifted and locked TJ's and JK's, a doorless WJ on 35" boggers, a long armed Cherokee on 39" iroks. All going 45ish in a 65 behind a Prius. We run a caravan and never push, only pass if we can reasonably, so we have some slow segments. We all have CB's and we enjoy the ride. Our friend drove up the side to video it as the Prius guy rolls down his window and furiously flips off the lead jeep, a local cop.
I think our poorly aligned, gas guzzling, noisy sin wagons displeased him.
To each his own.
If you ever need a lesson in why a Prius is actually bad for the environment, come to FL, and drive a modded Jeep or the like, some Prius owners are nut job angry. I can't imagine California though.
 
#34 ·
Wow going to have to retitle this thread aren't we?

I just finished the front end of this kit and am impressed. I cant compare it to the rr kit as I haven't seen it but I went spacers on my f150 and pulled them after 3 months and went with the bilstien 5100s. The main reason I chose the eibach lift.

I am going to start a thread with the pics and issues I ran into. Going to start the back in the a.m. It was BLOODY HOT TODAY! And now im drinking so no more airtools and spring compressors
for this guy today.
 
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