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Old 05-30-2015, 08:19 AM
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"Full Size Spare" Usage

Does anyone know how far you can go with the "full size spare' that comes with the 2014 GC. I didn't see any info in the manual or online. thanks!

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Re: "Full Size Spare" Usage

From the owner's manual...

Spare Tire Matching Original Equipped Tire And Wheel — If Equipped

Your vehicle may be equipped with a spare tire and wheel equivalent in look and function to the original equipment tire and wheel found on the front or rear axle of your vehicle. This spare tire may be used in the tire rotation for your vehicle. If your vehicle has this option, refer to an authorized tire dealer for the recommended tire rotation pattern.

Full Size Spare — If Equipped

The full size spare is for temporary emergency use only. This tire may look like the originally equipped tire on the front or rear axle of your vehicle, but it is not. This spare tire may have limited tread life. When the tread is worn to the tread wear indicators, the temporary use full size spare tire needs to be replaced. Since it is not the same as your original equipment tire, replace (or repair) the original equipment tire and reinstall on the vehicle at the first opportunity.

Limited-Use Spare — If Equipped

The limited-use spare tire is for temporary emergency use only. This tire is identified by a label located on the limited-use spare wheel. This label contains the driving limitations for this spare. This tire may look like the original equipped tire on the front or rear axle of your vehicle, but it is not. Installation of this limited-use spare tire affects vehicle handling. Since it is not the same as your original equipment tire, replace (or repair) the original equipment tire and reinstall on the vehicle at the first opportunity.

WARNING...

Limited-use spares are for emergency use only. Installation of this limited-use spare tire affects vehicle handling. With this tire, do not drive more than the speed listed on the limit-use spare wheel. Keep inflated to the cold tire inflation pressures listed on your Tire and Loading Information Placard located on the driver’s side B-Pillar or the rear edge of the driver’s side door. Replace (or repair) the original equipment tire at the first opportunity and reinstall it on your vehicle. Failure to do so could result in loss of vehicle control.

Compact Spare Tire — If Equipped

The compact spare is for temporary emergency use only. You can identify if your vehicle is equipped with a compact spare by looking at the spare tire description on the Tire and Loading Information Placard located on the driver’s side door opening or on the sidewall of the tire.

Compact spare tire descriptions begin with the letter “T” or “S” preceding the size designation. Example: T145/ 80D18 103M. T, S = Temporary Spare Tire.

Since this tire has limited tread life, the original equipment tire should be repaired (or replaced) and reinstalled on your vehicle at the first opportunity. Do not install a wheel cover or attempt to mount a conventional tire on the compact spare wheel, since the wheel is designed specifically for the compact spare tire.

Do not install more than one compact spare tire and wheel on the vehicle at any given time.

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Compact spares are for temporary emergency use only. With these spares, do not drive more than 50 mph (80 km/h). Temporary use spares have limited tread life. When the tread is worn to the tread wear indicators, the temporary use spare tire needs to be replaced. Be sure to follow the warnings, which apply to your spare. Failure to do so could result in spare tire failure and loss of vehicle control.
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Old 05-30-2015, 08:49 AM
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Re: "Full Size Spare" Usage

My 2014 Overland has a 265/50R20 OEM tire size. My spare is listed as P245/65R18XL. This would be considered the "full size spare" as I listed above.

Personally, if my spare is not an exact match to the OEM's then I'd treat it like a limited use or compact spare... I'd limit my speed as indicated and not drive with it any further than it takes to get it to a service center to get the OEM tire fixed or replaced.
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Re: "Full Size Spare" Usage

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My 2014 Overland has a 265/50R20 OEM tire size. My spare is listed as P245/65R18XL. This would be considered the "full size spare" as I listed above.

Personally, if my spare is not an exact match to the OEM's then I'd treat it like a limited use or compact spare... I'd limit my speed as indicated and not drive with it any further than it takes to get it to a service center to get the OEM tire fixed or replaced.
Thanks, I was looking at the User Guide an not that Owner's Manual, duh.

Yep I have the 245/65/18, although it has the same OD as the 265/50/20 it really affects the driving as I have to hold the wheel at a 45 degree angle to keep it straight.
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Re: "Full Size Spare" Usage

On the steel rim of the spare, I put a tyre the same size as my road tyres (in my case, 265/65/18). The steel rim width is appropriate for this size (I think it is actually the same as the alloy.) I would have bought an alloy to use as the spare, but the spokes stop it fitting well-side-up under the floor. So I have ASSUMED that this means there are no restrictions on usage, but all the warnings reproduced above are causing me to question this - maybe the steel rim itself is "under-rated".
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Re: "Full Size Spare" Usage

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Yep I have the 245/65/18, although it has the same OD as the 265/50/20 it really affects the driving as I have to hold the wheel at a 45 degree angle to keep it straight.
If that is the case, get to a shop and have your suspension looked at, you may have a minor correction with the tire, but not 45 degrees, there is something else wrong.

Did you blow a front or rear, and what speed were you travelling when it went out on you?
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If that is the case, get to a shop and have your suspension looked at, you may have a minor correction with the tire, but not 45 degrees, there is something else wrong.

Did you blow a front or rear, and what speed were you travelling when it went out on you?
Thanks, it's the right front. I lent the car to someone and they hit a fire hydrant and put a hole in the tire and damaged the rim. I didn't see any other physical damage. From what I was told they pulled over for directions didn't see the hydrant and when the pulled back out it hit the tire. So they couldn't have been going more than 10 mph.
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Re: "Full Size Spare" Usage

Glad I read that one a second time, at first I thought they drove over a fire hydrant , was gonna say that would take some amazing skill.

Chances are if they hit a solid object like that hard enough to blow a tire and damage the rim I would safely assume that your front suspension is out of alignment. Hopefully nothing is bent and they can adjust it back in spec.
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Re: "Full Size Spare" Usage

I agree with Savage'...not only was the wheel and tire damaged, but it sounds like there's deeper "adjustment needed" to that front suspension to fix whatever happened when they hit that object. (It sounds like they may have hit it harder than they may have intimated to you)
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I agree with Savage'...not only was the wheel and tire damaged, but it sounds like there's deeper "adjustment needed" to that front suspension to fix whatever happened when they hit that object. (It sounds like they may have hit it harder than they may have intimated to you)
Thanks for the add'l info.

I'll have to get it all looked at. This is the damage from the hydrant as the tire/wheel seats in my GC



I ended up ordering a used tire since the existing tires have about 7/32 left on them after 18,000 miles (does that sound about right?), so I figured it would match up better and save some money. Also the body shop will be able to recondition the rim. I'm hoping that suspension just has to be adjusted.
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I had 6/32 left on the Forteras at 41K miles when I bought my Nittos...
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