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Old 06-19-2016, 02:14 PM
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Thanks, I might be wrong, but some suspension components did change for 2016. RRO an OME lifts (2.5") are only available for '11-'15 as far as I can tell. I called RRO and they said the control arm design changed for 2016, but didn't say anything about the front strut mounts which is why I was looking into the 5100s for leveling until something more substantial is available.

I also searched Bilstein
Only thing I'm tracking thats changed in the arms is the use of aluminum

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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

Total noob here and I'm hoping someone can prove me wrong, but my '16 wk2 limited with conventional suspension has a flange welded to the lower clevis on the front strut(s) that I have not seen in any of the pics/diagrams of the Bilstein, ARB/OME, or Icon offerings. The front sway bar attaches to the front strut via a connecting rod to this flange. I'm guessing this flange has something to do with why nobody seems to have a lift solution (other than RRO's spacer lift) for this MY so far. I'd upload a pic but I haven't figured out how to post with attachments yet.
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

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Thanks whoever told me to order from partsgeek.. ordered 5100's yesterday morning ground shipping and here they are already

I actually want my ride quality back more to a stock feeling.. this super hard setup is sucking the 5100's with stock springs should be the ticket..
Did you install the Bilstein 5100s? how is the ride with them? what suspension where you running that had a harsh ride?

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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

I have 5100s. If anyone is considering upgrading their shocks with these, *do it*. Night and day difference in handling - damping is far more controlled in high speed transitions and road imperfections are smoothed out. Front end dive is greatly reduced, there's an increase in comfort, and you can use them to help level the look of the GC. Lifetime warranty too. These and a good set of tires are solid upgrades.
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

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I have 5100s. If anyone is considering upgrading their shocks with these, *do it*. Night and day difference in handling - damping is far more controlled in high speed transitions and road imperfections are smoothed out. Front end dive is greatly reduced, there's an increase in comfort, and you can use them to help level the look of the GC. Lifetime warranty too. These and a good set of tires are solid upgrades.
Thanks for your review, did you upgrade all 4 corners? what rear shocks did your jeep come with? mine has the nivomats and don't know if I should switch them to the bilstein 5100s when I do the fronts.
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:41 AM
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

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Thanks for your review, did you upgrade all 4 corners? what rear shocks did your jeep come with? mine has the nivomats and don't know if I should switch them to the bilstein 5100s when I do the fronts.
100% get rid of those nivomats they are total shit - but that requires you to swap out the shock mounts as well

i have 4 corners 5100s and it rides great
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

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Thanks for your review, did you upgrade all 4 corners? what rear shocks did your jeep come with? mine has the nivomats and don't know if I should switch them to the bilstein 5100s when I do the fronts.
Not yet, but I will soon.
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

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100% get rid of those nivomats they are total shit - but that requires you to swap out the shock mounts as well

i have 4 corners 5100s and it rides great
Tuned8e, what all suspension mods have you done? Your Jeep looks like it sits pretty high, and level. I'm running the Bilstein's myself up front with the factory springs and stock Nivomats out back. Couple of forum posts where people have converted the Nivomats to the Bilsteins out back with the stock springs and it sags. The Nivomat equipped WK2s have softer rear springs apparently. I'm looking to do something no more than 1 inch on the back and maybe a trim packer up front or something else while maintaining the already installed Bilsteins to give a little more room for my 275 65 18 Duratracs.
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

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Tuned8e, what all suspension mods have you done? Your Jeep looks like it sits pretty high, and level. I'm running the Bilstein's myself up front with the factory springs and stock Nivomats out back. Couple of forum posts where people have converted the Nivomats to the Bilsteins out back with the stock springs and it sags. The Nivomat equipped WK2s have softer rear springs apparently. I'm looking to do something no more than 1 inch on the back and maybe a trim packer up front or something else while maintaining the already installed Bilsteins to give a little more room for my 275 65 18 Duratracs.
YO YO

My Front Suspension: Bilstein 5100 series struts + OEM spring. 5100's set to highest groove.

My Rear: Bilstein 5100 series shocks + Eibach lift springs (yes, from their All Terrain Lift package)

I haven't measured per say, but it sits very level to the eye at least and its aligned perfectly

My issue currently is, when I fly over say... a RR crossing and come back down trophy truck style , I am rubbing the dead center top of the fender in the front . I might end up putting the Eibachs in up front and bringing that 5100 notch down to the lowest level, or one up from lowest but as long as I don't drive like a wiener I'm good.

Brief history: I complained to Jeep enough about my Nivomats that after 3 times having them replaced I got them to go the aftermarket route on the house. I just did the springs myself after the fact.
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

Well, here goes nothing. 14 Alt (no tow pkg) is under the knife (as i type this at the suspension/tire shop) to get the 5100s all round. Requested the fronts be set at 1.75". Since I don't have the tow package, I believe this should be level, but please someone correct me if i am incorrect in this statement.

Wheel/Tire set up - keeping the stock 20's with new 275/55/20 Duratracs
- from what I've read through this forum, those tires shouldn't have any rubbing issues, even with the new lift up front.

Spacer Questions
- Wheels - I imagine this is more for look/stance rather than functionality. Anyone recommend 1 or 1.25"?
- Rear Suspension - Am I incorrect in thinking the 5100s will level without the Nivomats and stock (no tow pkg) springs in the rear? If not, would it be wise to look into ZJ spacers for the rear?

As always, thanks for the insight gang.

Ben, I've been meaning to shoot you a message. If this all works out we should get together in the city one weekend.
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

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I have 5100s. If anyone is considering upgrading their shocks with these, *do it*. Night and day difference in handling - damping is far more controlled in high speed transitions and road imperfections are smoothed out. Front end dive is greatly reduced, there's an increase in comfort, and you can use them to help level the look of the GC. Lifetime warranty too. These and a good set of tires are solid upgrades.
What he said^^^ Couldn't be happier! More pics to come, but I have some on my build page.
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Ben, I've been meaning to shoot you a message. If this all works out we should get together in the city one weekend.
Just saw this

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