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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

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The Nivomats (load leveling shocks) use a different shock mount. You can buy the parts from MOPAR to convert it, but I'm hoping that Bilstein releases a 5100 that would be a direct fit. I am chomping at the bit to get these in the front of my 2015 Altitude. I was going to just do the 1.25 inch lift as my Jeep sits only about 1.5 inches higher in the back than in the front, and I do NOT want it to sit higher in the front than the back. The ride is good though? As these pre-load the springs I was afraid that it would make the ride stiff, but they're Bilsteins.

From an old post on this forum the below parts should be whats needed to convert the stock Nivmats to the standard style shock mounts:

Shock mount plate P/# 05181844AA
Shock Absorber shield / bellow P/# 68029592AC
Shock mount P/# 68029590AF
Bumper jounce P/# 68029591AC


Attached microfiche. Should be the top three parts above the box, plus the dust boot to the right.
Ahh shit. That's probably why Bilstein's website states Descriptor: Excludes Self Leveling (Nivomat) Suspension Thanks for the heads up. I literally had Jeep order the 5100 series for me to replace all 4 of my shocks due to the fact my load leveling shocks keep giving out. I just forwarded this information to my dealer's service manager to see what he says.

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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

Here's the full side pic. It needs bigger tires, yes?? (working on convincing the wife lol)

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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

thanks for posting looks good for now

go bigger when you can - but not necessary

I'll be in the same boat for a bit, Ill have 5100s at all 4 corners on factory 20s/goodyear forteras
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

I've put Bill-Stines on my FX4 Expedition (4600's) and Honda Civic and they are the real deal. On Expy, they replaced stock Rancho's and the ride was much smoother, a little bouncier and a bit less harsh. Still delivered perfect off-road manners. On the civic, they offered a BTS (bilstein tuned suspension) which had 4 springs and 4 shocks matched to the civic. Tha kit one lowered it 1" but the ride was just fabulous. Firm and sporty but no harshness. Not sure if they are the best, but they sure seemed pretty Fing good.
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

Eibyer what fender height did your oem 12 had vs your 15?
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

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Eibyer what fender height did your oem 12 had vs your 15?
I've always had the 12, alludc was the one that went from a 12 to 15... iirc.
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

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I've always had the 12, alludc was the one that went from a 12 to 15... iirc.

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I have numbers, but they are skewed because I already had bigger tires on both when I started before measurements. However, the 15 stock vs stock is definitely taller in front, slightly
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

So what part exactly is needed to run the 5100s in back on a tow pkg equipped (load leveling/Nivomat?) Wk2?
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

The 4 parts needed to replace the Nivomat with the standard shock / Bilsteins are outlined in detail above and on page 2.
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

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The 4 parts needed to replace the Nivomat with the standard shock / Bilsteins are outlined in detail above and on page 2.
Thanks for that by the way - my service manager said they have all 4 of those parts readily available . I ran the costs on them, for a consumer you could probably buy all 4 parts, $50 total per side. (Drivers rear, passenger rear)
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

I've been calling around to find a shop to install the 5100s up front and I've gotten two quotes: One for $1002 and one for $886 for parts, install, and alignment. WTF? I've been fortunate enough to have newer cars in the last 20 years that I've never had to take to a shop for repair as I've also done the maintenance items myself and have never had a major failure, but damn! It's R&R two struts! I was thinking $700-$750, tops.The shops didn't break down the prices for me, so I assume I'm being gouged on something, probably parts. For $900, I'm finding difficulty finding the value of doing this...

I'm going to watch some Youtube vidoes and see if I can build up enough bravery (stupidity) to attempt this myself.
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Re: Has anyone used the Bilstein 5100s?

check out 2 part video on youtube by "chux trux" installing the old man EMU kit

It really does not look that hard to do yourself. I am fortunate enough to have Jeep doing this Bilstein work for me.

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