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As much as I like the bwoodys on my wk, I'd skip em on the wk2 and op for blackops ones. They are far superior to bwoody wk2 endlinks and have the proper angles needed. Bwoody has had plenty of failed wk2 links as they don't have the needed angles on them.

I heard that as well. I think I'll stick with stock links for now with just the rear Hellwig bar.


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The stock links are like toothpicks. If your upgrading the RSB, you might as well do the links at the same time.

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Re: Hellwig Rear Sway Bar

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As much as I like the bwoodys on my wk, I'd skip em on the wk2 and op for blackops ones. They are far superior to bwoody wk2 endlinks and have the proper angles needed. Bwoody has had plenty of failed wk2 links as they don't have the needed angles on them.
I just googled a bit and I saw this:



I guess none of them are perfect.
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Re: Hellwig Rear Sway Bar

How many stock links have you seen broken? The sway bar will improve the cornering just stick to stock links.
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How many stock links have you seen broken? The sway bar will improve the cornering just stick to stock links.
Just the sway bar alone is only a part of the handling puzzle. You also need to beef up the links to really make use of the sway bar as the stock pencil thin ones flex under hard cornering.

The issue with the blackops ones in the video above was done by bwoody to bash blackops. I remember the whole fight between Chad from blackops and Steve from bwoody. I've never seen a blackops link break or fall apart but I have seen multiple bwoody failures on the wk2. Things like premature bushing failure or the link itself breaking.

I'm not a blackops fanboy tho, I do run bwoody links on my wk1 but they don't really have any failures on them. I wish Chad made them on the wk1 but he claims there is no market for them.
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Just the sway bar alone is only a part of the handling puzzle. You also need to beef up the links to really make use of the sway bar as the stock pencil thin ones flex under hard cornering.

The issue with the blackops ones in the video above was done by bwoody to bash blackops. I remember the whole fight between Chad from blackops and Steve from bwoody. I've never seen a blackops link break or fall apart but I have seen multiple bwoody failures on the wk2. Things like premature bushing failure or the link itself breaking.

I'm not a blackops fanboy tho, I do run bwoody links on my wk1 but they don't really have any failures on them. I wish Chad made them on the wk1 but he claims there is no market for them.
The links would show zero gain in any handling comparison though, where as the sway bar would.
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Re: Hellwig Rear Sway Bar

The theory is that by isolating any bending in the end links, you allow the sway bars to do their job more efficiently.

Now, will this be noticeable on a 5300LBS truck with mushy off road tires? I'm not so sure, but if anything, it will not hurt the setup.
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The links would show zero gain in any handling comparison though, where as the sway bar would.
This is false. Any flex in the endlink will reduce the efficiency of the sway bar. I've tested it against stock. Stock with sway bars, then bwoody and away bars and then finishing with a full setup (springs and shocks with srt sways and bwoody links).

At every stage, cornering has gotten progressively more confident and flatter. At every stage I was able to increase speed thru the corner.
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The theory is that by isolating any bending in the end links, you allow the sway bars to do their job more efficiently.

Now, will this be noticeable on a 5300LBS truck with mushy off road tires? I'm not so sure, but if anything, it will not hurt the setup.
That was my point, I just didn't make it. It's a Jeep that handles ok but far from great. It's not meant to and is what it is.
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This is false. Any flex in the endlink will reduce the efficiency of the sway bar. I've tested it against stock. Stock with sway bars, then bwoody and away bars and then finishing with a full setup (springs and shocks with srt sways and bwoody links).

At every stage, cornering has gotten progressively more confident and flatter. At every stage I was able to increase speed thru the corner.
So your telling me just by adding the end links you can feel a difference?
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So your telling me just by adding the end links you can feel a difference?
Yes. So much so that in fact some people went back to stock links in the rear because it was too harsh
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Wanna tell me how a endlink that's nearly twice as thick won't help handling any? Or how much the stock one flexes?

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