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Old 08-06-2015, 01:57 PM
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Help with new tires-2015 JGC Overland

So i have a 2015 Grand Cherokee Overland with ORAII package on order with an expected arrival date of 8/23/2015. I was pretty bummed to find out that the "on/off road" tires that came with the ORAII package w/ 18in wheels weren't really true all-terrain tires. I am looking for suggestions on what A/T tire will fit my needs best, there is so many options out there and prior to buying a JGC i owned sports cars so this is all new to me.

I'm looking for is a solid A/T tire that is mainly going to see duty on the beaches of Long Island and normal daily driving. But also expect for them to see some trails when i get the chance to get off of Long Island and head up north.

I am trying to avoid getting dedicated snow tires on top of the A/T tires, but i do work in a hospital so being able to get to work in all types of weather is important. So i have been trying to figure out the benefit of the severe snow rated tires vs regular M/S tires. Luckily most of Long Island is flat but the roads can get very slick due to the high volume of traffic.

I've been looking at the BFG KO2 and the Nitto Terra Grappler G2 so far. For fitment i was looking at 265/65/18 to insure there is no rubbing and that the spare tire will fit. Originally i was going to go with the KO2 because it seems like the best all around tire with severe snow rating, But my main concern is road noise and aggressive look which may look out of place when on the road, which led me to the Terra Grapplers G2 but that means giving up the severe snow rating.

Any other suggestions on top of the 2 tires i mentioned would be much appreciated, thanks for all the help in advance.

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Old 08-06-2015, 02:37 PM
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Re: Help with new tires-2015 JGC Overland

I love my Michelin LTX M/S2's. I put them on 2 days after my Overland was delivered, and have zero complaints. Quiet on the highway, great in the 10-12 foot average snowfall we get every winter, and although I don't drive on long beach stretches, we do have a 7 mile beach in the neighborhood, and I've parked in soft deep sand, and it walked right out. I also occasionally do some light off-roading in central PA on fire trails and mine access roads with no problem. I've never taken it rock crawling though.
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Old 08-06-2015, 03:03 PM
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Re: Help with new tires-2015 JGC Overland

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I love my Michelin LTX M/S2's. I put them on 2 days after my Overland was delivered, and have zero complaints. Quiet on the highway, great in the 10-12 foot average snowfall we get every winter, and although I don't drive on long beach stretches, we do have a 7 mile beach in the neighborhood, and I've parked in soft deep sand, and it walked right out. I also occasionally do some light off-roading in central PA on fire trails and mine access roads with no problem. I've never taken it rock crawling though.
Agreed. A/T's probably aren't the top choice for beach driving.
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Re: Help with new tires-2015 JGC Overland

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I love my Michelin LTX M/S2's. I put them on 2 days after my Overland was delivered, and have zero complaints. Quiet on the highway, great in the 10-12 foot average snowfall we get every winter, and although I don't drive on long beach stretches, we do have a 7 mile beach in the neighborhood, and I've parked in soft deep sand, and it walked right out. I also occasionally do some light off-roading in central PA on fire trails and mine access roads with no problem. I've never taken it rock crawling though.
What he said.

Been using the M+S 1 and 2 for couple decades on two different jeeps.
Reasonably quiet, excellent wet traction. Capable on polished ice and low temps, modestly deep snow, better actual foul weather traction than the Michelin AT/2

The Nokian WR G3 is also becoming similarly popular but not as easy to find.

If you truly need winter duty, go with a real winter tire and some modest aftermarket wheels. These won't have the aggressive tread look but will have bazillions of sipes in the tread and rubber that can deal with sub freezing temps well.
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Re: Help with new tires-2015 JGC Overland

are you planning on getting a full size spare wheel/tire?

My next tires will be the Nokain wrg3, I haven't read anything less than glowing reviews
Nokian WRG3 SUV - Nokian Tyres is introducing the rugged, high-performance Nokian WRG3 SUV all-weather tire for varied use on sports utility vehicles. / Nokian Tires
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Re: Help with new tires-2015 JGC Overland

Nokian Rotiiva AT in the stock size might be a good choice. It's more of an off-road tire than the WR G3. The Rotiiva tires were grippier and quieter than the OEM Michelins on my 2014 Grand Cherokee.
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Re: Help with new tires-2015 JGC Overland

I agree with the above on the Michelin they actually just released the next revision of it now called the Michelin Defender LTX M/S. It comes in the stock 265/50R20 size now also. Its the best all-around tire imo, good road manners, ok on snow, ok for some off roading, long lasting. lets hope this revision is as good as the past ones

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Re: Help with new tires-2015 JGC Overland

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are you planning on getting a full size spare wheel/tire?

My next tires will be the Nokain wrg3, I haven't read anything less than glowing reviews
Nokian WRG3 SUV - Nokian Tyres is introducing the rugged, high-performance Nokian WRG3 SUV all-weather tire for varied use on sports utility vehicles. / Nokian Tires

I'll throw in my $0.02 worth about the Nokians, since I put a set of them on my 2015 GC (with the ORA II Package) a couple of weeks after taking delivery of it.

My opinion might be a bit "clouded" as the alignment of my Jeep was off, at the time of delivery, and wasn't corrected until after the installation of the Nokians. Initially, I was very satisfied with them, especially after getting the alignment set correctly. And, I'm pretty sure that I'll be happy with them when the winter arrives.

However, I just came back from an 850 mile trip with the GC, mostly expressway driving, and I now have mixed feelings about them. There's no doubt in my mind, now, that these tires are more heavily "winter biased" than I originally thought. On my trip, I encountered varying pavement conditions, on which they were somewhat noisy, and some "grooved pavement" (for water dispersion) on which they were a bit unsteady.

I realize that part of the problem, at least for me, is that this is my first SUV. Formerly I had small 4x4 pickups for winter driving, which by nature aren't sporty, but were lighter and more nimble feeling than the GC. And in the summer I drove Corvettes, Camaros, and Trans Ams, for the last 35 years, which are VERY nimble cars. So, I realize my impression of both the GC and the Nokian tires may a bit skewed.

As I got older, having two sets of tires, one for winter one for summer, isn't as practical as it used to be. Lugging 60-65 pound wheel/tire assemblies up and down the basement stairs twice a year, isn't fun anymore. THAT'S why I went with the Nokians, as my primary use of the GC will be winter driving. However, I'm a little disappointed in their performance in extended 70 MPH expressway driving. If it turns out that I wind up using the GC for extended use in the summer, I might have to invest in a second set of wheels, with "summer performance" tires on them, and hope my back holds up, dragging the wheels up from the basement.....
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Re: Help with new tires-2015 JGC Overland

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I love my Michelin LTX M/S2's. I put them on 2 days after my Overland was delivered, and have zero complaints. Quiet on the highway, great in the 10-12 foot average snowfall we get every winter, and although I don't drive on long beach stretches, we do have a 7 mile beach in the neighborhood, and I've parked in soft deep sand, and it walked right out. I also occasionally do some light off-roading in central PA on fire trails and mine access roads with no problem. I've never taken it rock crawling though.
The Michelin LTX M/S2's look like a good solid tire, but seems to be more of an all season highway tire that lacks the severe snow rating. I'll have to do some more research, i realized that an aggressive A/T tire bites into sand which could actually make driving more difficult so i may have to change what i'm looking for because most of my driving will be on sand when not on the pavement.

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are you planning on getting a full size spare wheel/tire?
I do plan on replacing the spare tire as well, that is why i was looking at the 265/65/18 size. Any wider on the tread and apparently the lid won't fit over it anymore. Any idea if something like a 265/70/18 would fit where the spare goes? and would that cause rubbing with the QL?

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Nokian Rotiiva AT in the stock size might be a good choice. It's more of an off-road tire than the WR G3. The Rotiiva tires were grippier and quieter than the OEM Michelins on my 2014 Grand Cherokee.
The Nokian Rotiiva AT looks like a really good tire that checks all the boxes and definitely on my list now. Has some light off-roading features but not too aggressive that it will impend sand driving but also be handle some light trails. and also carries the severe snow emblem which will mean i might be able to hold off on winter tires.

Do you know the different between the regular Rotiiva At and the Rotiiva AT Plus?
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Re: Help with new tires-2015 JGC Overland

Nokian describes its Rotiiva AT Plus as a summer tire.
If you choose to buy Nokian tires, make sure that the seller is an authorized Nokian dealer by checking with Nokian USA.
I would buy Nokian again if I lived in a snowy climate.
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Re: Help with new tires-2015 JGC Overland

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I do plan on replacing the spare tire as well, that is why i was looking at the 265/65/18 size. Any wider on the tread and apparently the lid won't fit over it anymore. Any idea if something like a 265/70/18 would fit where the spare goes? and would that cause rubbing with the QL?
I believe I've seen someone with 275/65 duratracs that fit with no rubbing with QL. 275/65/18 Duratracs on Mopar Wheels!

I've read that a less aggressive 265/60 tire and oem wheel WILL fit in the rear, but there are a lot of conflicting reports on that.
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My 2014 Grand Cherokee's spare tire is narrower than the four other tires. The standard tire will not fit in the wheel well. I think the spare has a width of 245mm.
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