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Michelin LTX MS 2 for Winter

Anyone used these tires for the winter this year. How did they do in the worst winter conditions? Reason I'm asking is because I put a set of GY Adventures on for the winter and they were outstanding in the bad weather. They are however just a touch loud and firm riding on dry or rough pavement and since I do all highway driving,no off road at all, they seem a little too much tire for the summer. I got a great deal on a set of LTX MS2 and I'm going to try them out. Options are 1.get a spare set of rims and switch sets in the Spring and fall (more work but probably most efficient) or 2. See if the Michelins do almost as well in the winter and leave them on year round. Any comments appreciated thanks

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Re: Michelin LTX MS 2 for Winter

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Anyone used these tires for the winter this year. How did they do in the worst winter conditions? Reason I'm asking is because I put a set of GY Adventures on for the winter and they were outstanding in the bad weather. They are however just a touch loud and firm riding on dry or rough pavement and since I do all highway driving,no off road at all, they seem a little too much tire for the summer. I got a great deal on a set of LTX MS2 and I'm going to try them out. Options are 1.get a spare set of rims and switch sets in the Spring and fall (more work but probably most efficient) or 2. See if the Michelins do almost as well in the winter and leave them on year round. Any comments appreciated thanks
I've used them, which included trips across Donner pass, Echo Summit, Carson pass over the Sierras. They are quite surprisingly good, plus much quieter than some aggressive treads. They are also excellent on wet cold roads, much better than the Michelin AT/2 [and quieter], good cross country cruisers, and excellent tread life--plus unless you get stuff in the sidewall or tread/sidewall, very difficult to puncture. Arguably one of the best all around SUV tires ever.


However, if you have really really bad weather with ice, etc. I'd get real winter tires, which the Goodyear Adventure is not--it is an AT tire.
You want snowflake symbol, excellent cold weather/ice traction, and if legal, studs.
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Re: Michelin LTX MS 2 for Winter

Thanks for the info. I realize that the GY Adventure is not a dedicated winter tire, but it supposedly has a tread compound and other attributes that lean that way. It seems like that's the case because it performed very well in a long snowy winter in the NE. Certainly did everything that I needed it to.The trade off is a little more noise and stiffness. I may end up using both.
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Re: Michelin LTX MS 2 for Winter

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Thanks for the info. I realize that the GY Adventure is not a dedicated winter tire, but it supposedly has a tread compound and other attributes that lean that way. It seems like that's the case because it performed very well in a long snowy winter in the NE. Certainly did everything that I needed it to.The trade off is a little more noise and stiffness. I may end up using both.
If you like the Goodyear, you'll probably appreciate the better cold/wet traction of the Michelin even more... if those fit your needs for winter.

I live on the Colorado front range, but spend a lot of time at 8-10K feet with nasty ice/snow and the worst stuff-freezing slush, so I use studs here and live with the noise.

Elsewhere, just used those same Michelins, the excellent 4wd of Jeeps, and having lived after learning to drive in Montana winters.
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Re: Michelin LTX MS 2 for Winter

thanks,sounds like you know what you're talking about! Not severe enough here for studs, although I like them and used them for years when I lived further north. If the michelins came close to the GY in the winter, I'd like to eliminate the PITA of swapping.
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Re: Michelin LTX MS 2 for Winter

I had them on my MY11 WK2. Great tires. Good on highway. Good in snow. Good for mild off-roading. Not good on hard packed snow or ice.
So far Nokian WR G3 SUV are checking all the boxes for me. 6500 miles from November 2014 to now. We had 6 feet of snow this winter and I was out in it every day.
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Re: Michelin LTX MS 2 for Winter

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Thanks for the info. I realize that the GY Adventure is not a dedicated winter tire, but it supposedly has a tread compound and other attributes that lean that way. It seems like that's the case because it performed very well in a long snowy winter in the NE. Certainly did everything that I needed it to.The trade off is a little more noise and stiffness. I may end up using both.
Greetings,

Using a an AT for the snow/ice season has it's pro and cons. For instance, those that have the snowflake symbol does not mean it is a dedicated winter tires. The tread compound is much different in terms of being soft. For the off-road aspect, you still need a stiffer compound as many of us point out.

Today, if you do not want a dedicated snow tire or an AT type of tire, you will the trend today is labeled as ALL WEATHER TIRE. In this category, you are looking for softer tire compounds that give better grip in cold temperatures as well as increase siping.

As many have pointed out here, look at Nokian first and take it from there. I believe within this forum section for Suspension/.../Tires, the first 3 pages have many interest threads on this topic. The other thing to consider is, now that we are into spring and depending were you live, you might want to wait until to the fall to purchase new sneakers. At that time the new models usually come out.

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Re: Michelin LTX MS 2 for Winter

All good information, thanks. So i guess the question that remains is will the LTX MS2 be close enough to the GY Adventure in the winter to make changing them out unnecessary work. I already have both sets of tires and I can get a spare set of rims to avoid breaking them down every time.
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Re: Michelin LTX MS 2 for Winter

I've had the MS2 tires for 2 winters now and have no complaints. You have to drive within reason with any tire, no matter a dedicated winter tire or not. I think it a very good all around tire for the price. Sound coming from the tire doesn't seem any different than the stock tires that came on the Jeep (I upgraded to the MS2 after 100 miles on the original tires). I don't think you can go wrong with them.
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Re: Michelin LTX MS 2 for Winter

I've had the LTX M/S2s for two years now and no complaints. We've averaged over 100" of snow both winters, and the traction was excellent. Long vacation drives in the summer were smooth and quiet. Wear has been excellent, much better than I've ever had with a Goodyear tire. Not knocking Goodyear performance, just that they seem to wear fast. If I had to replace them, I'd buy the same again. Great year round tire.
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Thanks, that helps.
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Re: Michelin LTX MS 2 for Winter

I wanted to give an update and some comments. Also thanks to all the replies. I went ahead and replaced the GY Adventures that had served so well in the harsh NE winter with a set of LTX MS2's. Here are my observations at this point.
My goal was to soften the ride and reduce highway noise. The swap was successful at doing both. That being said,the difference is not huge (especially under 65 MPH) and if I had any need at all for an AT tire besides winter, the tradeoff would not be an issue and they could stay on all year. But I don't need the extra traction for 3 seasons, so the noise and ride improvement are significant to me. I did notice that the LTXs have so far been a touch less responsive. I think that the same robust sidewalls that stiffened the ride with the GY's, also made the tire react quicker, similar to reducing the aspect ratio. This may change.The LTX's have only been on for a couple hundred miles and I am still letting them break in and experimenting with tire pressures. So far, for an older, highway driving, NPR listener, it worked out great. MPG seems to have increased slightly, as would be expected with a less aggressive tread. I am definitely keeping the GY's and if the LTX's don't make me happy in snow and ice, I'm getting a spare set of rims and the GY's are going back on for next winter.
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