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Old 05-06-2016, 08:55 PM
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Re: My springs are on the way!

Finally got everything installed and the ride is, like others have said, BETTER than stock with the load leveling shocks out back.

I am disappointed though in the result. The rear sits 1/2" lower (by measuring tape) than the front, and that bugs me, a lot actually. Right now I am looking for options that would allow me to add a 3/4" spacer out back.

But the thing that's killing me is that the alignment shop wasn't able to get the rear camber dialed out far enough to meet the specs that Chad at Black Ops sent me from Road Magnet. They said they have the adjusters all the way out. The driver side is:
-2.38* where the spec sheet shows between -0.8* & -1.80*
The passenger side is:
-2.81* where the spec sheet shows between -0.8" & -1.80*

Visibly it looks bad, IMO.

Perhaps a rear 3/4" spacer (if there is such a thing) would help me in leveling it out AND help get the camber dialed back in. Does SRT have components to adjust the upper CAs out farther?

Any thoughts, comments or help would be appreciated.

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Couple of before & afters (gotta say I really like the overall look)
Here's a before pic from this morning:


After pic this evening (lighting isn't the best, but just went out there & took it)


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Old 05-06-2016, 10:13 PM
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Re: My springs are on the way!

Measure the front and rear of the pinch weld at the rocker. Not sure about these Jeeps, but on hot rods in the past I've been fooled by wheel arch measurements when determining rake or level. Just a thought. She's looking pretty good from here.
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Measure the front and rear of the pinch weld at the rocker. Not sure about these Jeeps, but on hot rods in the past I've been fooled by wheel arch measurements when determining rake or level. Just a thought. She's looking pretty good from here.
I'll check it in the morning. I noticed the difference right away before measuring actually. Agreed it does look pretty level from there in that pic.

After looking at the "before" pic, I don't think I could go back, LOL

I'm so anal about this stuff, I just want to get the camber dialed in foremost and to know it is indeed level, or have a very slight rake, to be a happy camper.

Thanks for the thought on measeument & compliment though, Governor. I appreciate it
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Old 05-07-2016, 01:22 PM
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I'll check it in the morning. I noticed the difference right away before measuring actually. Agreed it does look pretty level from there in that pic.

After looking at the "before" pic, I don't think I could go back, LOL

I'm so anal about this stuff, I just want to get the camber dialed in foremost and to know it is indeed level, or have a very slight rake, to be a happy camper.

Thanks for the thought on measeument & compliment though, Governor. I appreciate it
Was reading this thread today.. My 2015 Red Vapor
Gentleman used the same springs you have and posted that he is installing adjustable rear control arms. Perhaps due to same alignment issues? Keep us posted.
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Was reading this thread today.. My 2015 Red Vapor
Gentleman used the same springs you have and posted that he is installing adjustable rear control arms. Perhaps due to same alignment issues? Keep us posted.
Thanks, I posted on his thread asking what control arms he bought.
If he bought them from Black Ops (same place we got our springs from), they are about $700 for the set - ouch! But, to their defense, from everything I've read, their arms are the best.

If I can't find a reasonably priced alternative, I'm afraid the lowering springs will be coming off and the stock ones will go back in, keeping the Bilsteins on. If it was just a little bit of camber, I could live with it. But mine is out of spec, and frankly, looks like crap now, IMO.

When I picked the Jeep up from the installer yesterday, we talked about raising the rear up 3/4" with a spacer to give it about 1/4" of rake, which is fine and perhaps that would help get the camber back in tolerance, but he can't say for sure. I'll talk to the installer on Monday and see if the alignment shop feels that the extra 3/4" would help.

I have to say that with this new suspension setup, the ride is so much better than stock with the load-leveling shocks out back. It is like night and day!

I'll keep you posted
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Re: My springs are on the way!

I decided to pull the RM Mids back off and put the stock coils back in, keeping the Bilsteins in place. Just wasn't for me. I know lowered cars and have 2, a Mustang and a New Beetle on coilovers. I LOVE a lowered vehicle done the right way. But my Altitude, for me, just didn't work. Love a lowered WK2 SRT and there are lowered WK2s that look great too. Just didn't work for me.
Kind of an expensive mistake, but you don't know till you try.

If anyone is interested, I'll have them up for sale this weekend. Only been on for a week and only have about 75-80 miles on them.
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Looks to me like they installed the springs backwards.....they put the fronts on the rear snd the rears on the front.
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Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they were. Chad simply had used a sharpie to write "F" & "R" on the springs... Not necessarily what I expected. I pointed that out to the installers.

Interestingly, another member here I've talking with recently put a set on his Altitude and had it squatting about a half inch in the back also,

Maybe a coincidence or maybe its just that the SRTs are suspended differently?
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Have you swapped them out yet? I'm still wondering if it's not just an optical illusion due to difference in wheel opening heights. Would love to know the measurements at front and rear of rocker panel pinch weld.
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Have you swapped them out yet? I'm still wondering if it's not just an optical illusion due to difference in wheel opening heights. Would love to know the measurements at front and rear of rocker panel pinch weld.
They are getting swapped out today. I did measure at the "pinch weld" at the bottom of the rocker and it is a bit lower out back.

This is my wife's Jeep and I told her if she didn't like it lowered I would put it back up. She didn't. She told me that this is too much like a car now and that she wanted an SUV because it sits higher than cars and she has a better field of vision when sitting higher. Can't really argue with that logic.

After seeing it done, I didn't really like it as much as I thought I would either.
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Thanks for checking.
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Re: My springs are on the way!

Swapped the RM Mids out today.
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