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Re: Need advise on winter tires

IME, studs are a bit old skool and work really well for one condition: ice and heavily packed wet snow. They otherwise stink for handling on pavement, making noise, and tearing up roadways.

OTOH, as others have said, the Blizzacks do a really great job on icy and snow packed roads, and also handle pavement reasonably well. Other AT tires with good snow tread and softer rubber are nearly as good, and also provide all-round benefits. I'm in deep winter conditions for four months of the year in Colorado high country and roll with the Firestone Destination AT's.

In this regard, I'd suggest that studded tires are really only optimal for Jeeps or other 4WD when the driver is in snow and ice full time - backcountry winter climates or say the Pacific NW which has a ton of wet snow that hardpacks to ice. Otherwise, there's just too many other good options in tires.

YMMV.

Edit: Misantrop and 2011limited - where are you guys located? do you have chain laws that otherwise require studded tires to allow passage of certain roadways and conditions?
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Re: Need advise on winter tires

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IME, studs are a bit old skool and work really well for one condition: ice and heavily packed wet snow.
I would agree with this, but I can't see any new school solution which would fit those who live beyond polar circle.

Yes, studs make noise, yes they tear off road marks, yes they increase breaking distance on clean pavements... But still, if you don't live on a plain and winter time is around 9 months, you'll have to be studded...

But by some weird reason all studded tires are not real offroad tires. Yes they offer higher speeds (don't know why would you want to race on icy roads if you just want to make it safely), but when it comes to really deep snow (>1 feet) they pass.

I'm not of the majority, 'cos not so much people live so up north, but still, is there a single tire maker who would have offered an off-road winter tire with studs?
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Anyone have any experience with the new Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac with snow and ice? Studded?
These ones are actually look good, thanks for the info. What I could find so far, is that you can put studs in them and these are rated for snow.

Some forums say (from H2 and H3 users) that these are good, but some studs tend to loose, so they recommend studs N16. And glue them on!



Anyone has more info these tires? Honestly they look awesome!
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Re: Need advise on winter tires

I asked locally, and the tire shop are also leaning more towards the Nokian winter tire studded. Seems to be a good choice for having studded tires and on road manners also.

As for the option of the duratrac with studs, noise would be something to consider, but for deep snow,it should work better and also for off road applications.

I'm just north of the us border in Canada, and we do get a good amount of snow during winter times. It's mostly small hills in the region and winter lasts around 4-6 months depending on the years.

Never tried a winter studdd tire yet also.

I'm still debating what would be the better setup for the winter months, for all conditions. Duratracs non studded, vs studded, blizzaks, Nokia studded tires, etc.

But just for the looks, the duratracs do get my vote lol
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Re: Need advise on winter tires

I live in Northern Idaho and replaced the noisy studded tires on the wife's Lexus 400H hybrid with Blizzak DM-V1's last winter. They are as quiet as most highway tires and appeared to work equally as well as the studs under all conditions we encountered during the past snowy winter here. They also showed a 2.5 mpg gain over the studs. I plan to use them as the winter tires (18") on my new 2012 JGC Overland. Can't see any reason to use anything else!
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