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Old 08-24-2016, 04:55 PM
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Re: Need some new tire advice & help

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IMHO, it looks like crap when the wheel are pushed way out due to spacers.
Just when I thought I've heard it all.

All stock grand Cherokees look like conestoga wagons to me. Tires tucked way inside the fenders is not how a well engineered car/truck should look. The further you push out the tires the better the look, handling and the ride.

I'd rather have 9" wide wheels but we can't have everything.

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Old 08-24-2016, 06:51 PM
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Re: Need some new tire advice & help

I went with 265-65-18 Duratracs. One inch taller and had a fingers width all around at upper control arm with the quadra lift even at exit mode. It's louder than stock but can't hear it with the stereo from 14 vol. up. No spacers, too much red clay around here. I live on a dirt road plus my dirt driveway.
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Old 08-24-2016, 07:13 PM
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Re: Need some new tire advice & help

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I went with 265-65-18 Duratracs. One inch taller and had a fingers width all around at upper control arm with the quadra lift even at exit mode. It's louder than stock but can't hear it with the stereo from 14 vol. up. No spacers, too much red clay around here. I live on a dirt road plus my dirt driveway.
I like the looks of those but they "look" too loud for me.
I'm leaning towards the Falken WildpeakA/T3W but I'm still looking and reading reviews.
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:46 AM
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Just when I thought I've heard it all.

All stock grand Cherokees look like conestoga wagons to me. Tires tucked way inside the fenders is not how a well engineered car/truck should look. The further you push out the tires the better the look, handling and the ride.

I'd rather have 9" wide wheels but we can't have everything.
Ha ha, Conestoga wagon.
Yeah, we all have our own taste on what looks good and what doesn't, and I can respect that. I know I'm probably on the minority side of the tires sticking out thing, since I see A LOT of trucks driving around here with the wheels stuck way out. When I put the 35's on my Ram it took a lot of research to find a rim/tire combo that didn't have a super wide tire with half the tread (or more) outside the fenders.
Don't get me wrong, it's not terrible if they stick out a little. The part I don't like is when you've got more tire sticking out than there is under the fender. It just looks cheap to me (that's just one person's opinion). As if the person couldn't afford a wide tire so they pushed the wheels out, as if nobody will notice the huge gap in between them.

As for performance. It depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Yes, on a street racer, a wider stance is better. I'm sure the wider stance helps add stability to a rock crawler too. However if you're trying to be agile/maneuverable, pushing them out increases the turning radius and could be detrimental for some trails (or parking lots). Similarly a excessively wide tire can grip a dry road, or stay on top of sand. However up here in the snow belt a really wide tire is not your friend. A narrower tire grips the road much better in the snow/ice, than something wide. So wide tires and/or big offset being good/bad depends on what your application/goal is, about as much as it does the person's opinion on it's appearance.

Some people absolutely love the look of a pushed out rim/tire, and that's great for them. Just not my thing. Guess I'll go hitch up my horses to my wagon.

And FWIW, just to show I don't completely hate when tires stick out (and because I'm a pic whore), here's a shot of my current Ram, and my previous one. Both have oversize tires, and they do stick out a bit. The key is that the majority of the tire is still UNDER the truck. When more tire sticks out than is underneath, that's the "unnatural" look I'm talking about.





On the white Ram, the tire are 315 wide, on the red one they're 285 wide.
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Old 08-25-2016, 08:06 AM
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Re: Need some new tire advice & help

Well I've never been much of a Truck/SUV guy so I'm still trying to find my way.
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Re: Need some new tire advice & help

Anyone ever mount 285/55R20's? (O.D. 32.4")
Think this will work with stock wheels and 1.25" spacers? With the RRO 2.5" lift?
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Re: Need some new tire advice & help

That's really pushing things, five.7'...32" is "about" the limit, especially when you get to a tight turn, without doing some additional physical modification to the JGC. At least that's what I've gleaned from reading many threads over time.
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Re: Need some new tire advice & help

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That's really pushing things, five.7'...32" is "about" the limit, especially when you get to a tight turn, without doing some additional physical modification to the JGC. At least that's what I've gleaned from reading many threads over time.
Ok. I've been reading and reading post after post......I think your right. It would be really close.
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Re: Need some new tire advice & help

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Just when I thought I've heard it all.

All stock grand Cherokees look like conestoga wagons to me. Tires tucked way inside the fenders is not how a well engineered car/truck should look. The further you push out the tires the better the look, handling and the ride.

I'd rather have 9" wide wheels but we can't have everything.
Quite the contrary on the engineering comment. The WK2 was designed to appeal to a broad range of clientele. Soccer moms to grocery runners to some pretty capable off-roading.

The -56 off-set allows the stock wheel setup to tuck up into the wheel well at compression. Once you start getting lower than maybe -30 to -35 the ability for the tire to tuck into the well decreases since the tire is poking out. If you're off-roading or hitting a lot of speed bumps hard you'll start tearing up fender flairs, or more.

It all depends on what you want to do with your WK2. There are some nice looking setups with the tires poking out for that wider stance. If all you're doing is driving around town, go crazy.

If you want to a great multi-purpose vehicle for on and off road, pokey tires aren't the best option.
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Old 08-26-2016, 09:49 AM
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.....I'm still trying to find my way.
That's half the fun of customizing, and modifying a car/truck. Enjoy yourself, while you figure out what you like.

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Anyone ever mount 285/55R20's? (O.D. 32.4")
Think this will work with stock wheels and 1.25" spacers? With the RRO 2.5" lift?
I would think with a 2.5" lift they should fit okay. My tires work out to 32.1" and they're pretty close in some of the lower QL settings. However, if I air it up to OR2 (2.1" lift) there's a decent amount of clearance. Enough that I think you could fit the extra .3" without issue. The question is the width, and if 1.25 is the ideal spacer to fit them. You may need a narrower, or wider, spacer to clear the extra inch of tire when you turn to full lock.
Anyway, with a 2.5" lift you should be close to fitting the tires you referenced.

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That's really pushing things, five.7'...32" is "about" the limit, especially when you get to a tight turn, without doing some additional physical modification to the JGC. At least that's what I've gleaned from reading many threads over time.
Yeah, it starts to get close with the extra diameter and width. That's when you start having to get just the right combos to fit. And an added bonus, if you stick with a 32" tire, the spare will still fit in the well under the rear floor. Though I also like the idea of the rear mount for a bigger tire, rather than having to lift it to a roof rack.
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Re: Need some new tire advice & help

Choosing tires has never been so difficult for me. I'm new to the 4x4 game and I don't want to choose poorly. What I want: big knobby tires.....what I need: quiet all terrain tires.

I find myself looking at truck tires on the road.....twalking the long way back to my Jeep trough parking lots just to checkout tires on other vehicles. Oh and surfing the web all day at the office looking at tires. Tire shopping is going to give me grey hair or get me fired.....or both.
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I find my K02s just fine with sound. I bring clientsome out in my truck all the time and conduct business while driving. Never had one person complain about the noise. Can I notice it? Yes. My VW Jetta TDi was louder than the tires are...
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