I put these tires on my 2014 Summit yesterday. Apparently the PLUS model is very different from last years Alanza. The tread depth is 13/32 as compared to the Fortera's 10/32. The tire weight is 43 pounds as opposed to the Fortera's 34 pounds. Quite a difference, and more than 3/32 tread depth difference would account for . . . and deeper than the much loved and highly rated CrossContact LX20 with EcoPlus . I would expect that the sidewall has increased as well as the rubber hardness (now 80,000 mile warranty). I passed on the CrossContact LX20 with EcoPlus as I wanted a little more aggressive tread design.
For the first 4-5 miles the tires felt a little jiggly - like they were feeling every section and tar patch in the road. Later, after the first 4-5 miles, on this same section of road the tires were smooth as glass. Kinda like a new pair of shoes?
They needed breaking in?
After the first 50 miles of highway I was delighted. They were quieter than the OM Forteras (the engine noise pretty much drowned out any road noise at all speeds- not true with the Fortera). As I had originally bought these tires as a better choice for off-road - that's where I went next. Amazing. As a big time past user of BF Goodrich TA I was impressed. Tire pressure was set at 40 as it was 80 degrees outside. I first kept it in 2 wheel drive and proceeded through deep sand and some off-camber dirt hills. I was so surprised! Wonderful. So I slipped the tranny into 4x4 and hit some tougher sections. I did not do any serious rock climbing (it ain't a Rubicon) but for semi-serious off-road these tires work excellent.
More testing to follow, but I suspect these are more than soccer-mom tires. We shall see.
Edit: Maybe these tires have a little harder rubber. I am noticing the first 5 or so miles they seem a little stiffer - until they warm up. Then they smooth out. What I am wondering is, how will they handle snow and ice.? I live in the mountains of Arizona at 5,000' and sometimes, maybe once a year, we get a foot of snow. Other times only 2-5". GREAT sand tires!