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Old 09-02-2014, 10:19 PM
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If you experience winter weather, there's no comparison. I would think the Paradas would be not much better in the winter than the junk Jeep puts on at the factory.

I had a scare last winter and swore I'd get rid of these Fortera POS tires. With snow possible up here at any time now, I pulled the trigger.

Sticking with the OEM size, I was going with either these or the Terra Grapplers (more aggro look), but sensibility won out. I had the TGs on a Dakota. They wore fast and were not that great in the winter (but better then the Forteras).

The WRG3 SUVs go on Friday.
same spot im at too..Terra Grapplers or WRG3's - but the TG's are half the price of the WRG's.
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:19 AM
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Re: New tire

Terra Grapplers look to much like a work truck tire to me.
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same spot im at too..Terra Grapplers or WRG3's - but the TG's are half the price of the WRG's.
Greetings,

The TG's compound is consider to be a hard material. In winter weather, the better traction will come from a softer material. Nokian's WRG3 SUV compound has far superior properties to give you that all important traction. If superior traction is what you need, than their is nobody come close to Nokian's dedicated Happa line.

Having an AT and/or style tire does not guarantee that it works best in the winter. I have the Nokian Rotiva AT on my JGC. However, this tire is geared for the winter, but not as much as the WRG.

Yes, Nokian is not cheap, but if you are looking for a piece of mind, then the extra bucks is well worth it.

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Re: New tire

If I were to get the WRG3 SUV I would be using it year around. I'm hoping it's a smooth and quiet tire. I know it doesn't have the durability as others but I only put on about 7500 miles per year so it should last a while.
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:30 PM
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Re: New tire

WR G2's on our Subaru are on year around. (That was the plan.) They are smooth, but not as quiet as stock tires, though Subaru does not have as much sound proofing as WK2, for sure. The tread pattern on the WR G3 SUV's looks like it would be quieter though.
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As a directional tire, it should be mounted with the V tread facing forward
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and not facing backwards
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Right ?

With my tire guys you can't assume anything ...

Thanks for your kind advice

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Directional tires should have a fairly large "< ROTATION" directional marking molded into the sidewall.
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How quiet and smooth are they compared to the stock forteras ?
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Re: New tire

I actually had a set of directional Fortera Triple Treads on my previous Jeep. They were fantastic on snow and ice but the wear characteristics weren't that great. As they wore down some I started getting that wow-wow-wow howling at almost any speed.

I finally got tired of listening to that and replaced them with Cooper Discoverer AT3's.
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How quiet and smooth are they compared to the stock forteras ?
I contacted Nokian a few months ago and asked them about the noise level of the WRG3 SUV they stated that it was not the quietest of their tires but was by no means loud and referred me to consumer reports which gave the WRG3 SUV a medium rating for noise. if I were in a snowy climate that would be my first pick for a tire because I am not one to change out different tires for different seasons of the year. The fact that this tire is marketed as good in snow but can be left on all year round is a big plus. Got to buy tires for how you use them. since my climate gets not much snow and I wanted a super smooth and super quiet highway cruiser I got the Michelin Latitude Tour HP which is an excellent tire for that purpose. For an off road tire with acceptable on road manners would have gone with terra grappler and for a very snowy climate and a tire you leave on year round it would have been the WRG3 SUV. just buyem how you use em
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How quiet and smooth are they compared to the stock forteras ?
I would say they are about the same in noise and they seem smoother. I only had stock tires on for just under 1K miles. I didn't like how the stock tires handled in the snow. The stock Latitudes on my FWD Equinox handled better in the snow.
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Re: New tire

Greetings,

Interesting what Consumer Reports said about the Nokian WRG3 SUV about noise. With the Nokian Rotiva AT tire that now has over 20k on mine, they seam quieter than most other AT tires when I have the windows open. Granted, the GC does a great job in reducing road noise.

As member Jake07WK has reported, the WRG3 is differently quieter and should be quieter than an AT tire. A lot of noise reduction for both an directional tire and an AT tire comes from Nokian's technology.

As member silvermax04 has pointed out, their is a difference between a touring tire and a tire that deals with both touring and winter conditions. Tire selection is all about where you are driving and what other regions you want to go to with their respective seasons.

FYI: When you buy a tire for winter conditions, do not wait until it happens. Tires need over a hundred miles to remove the top coating to get to the traction design point.

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Re: New tire

I had a set out on yesterday. The noise isn't really noticeable compared to the farteras, although I haven't taken them to highway speeds yet.

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