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Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update

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Nokian calls its Rotiiva and WRG3 tires "all-weather," rather than all-season because the Rotiiva and WRG3 are acceptable in states and provinces that require winter tires. All-season tires, which generally are designed to go through no more than two inches or five cm of snow, are unacceptable in those jurisdictions in winter. (I may be skating on this ice here, but I think that I've go the facts right.)
Greetings,

Skating on thin ICE? Nope, you did get the facts correct.

With regards to the WR G3, they are technical an all season tire. However, because they use compounds that are designed to give the maximum grip based on the tires purpose, Nokian now calls everything all weather. This was explained to me by them a couple of months ago. Very few tires that are labeled all season have the mountain flake symbol indicating usage for winter conditions. The symbol also indicates that the tire is perfectly fine in jurisdictions that except it. Within some jurisdictions that except the symbol will still require on certain roads chains or studded tires depending on conditions. The Nokian Rotiva is an all season on/off road all terrain tire that additional has the mountain flake symbol giving that all weather status. Here is a link on other members opinions about the WR series: New tire

Goodyear tires for SUV's also uses the same label principles that Nokian does. The Silent Amror was labeled with the Mountain Flake for all weather as well.

Today, it is all about marketing and we as the consumer have to read between the lines.

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Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update

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In your opinion, is the winter performance of these tires on par with dedicated winter tires?
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In terms of ice conditions, IMHO, they did better than other AT type tires I had in the past. Their were a few times this past winter that I had slow down quickly on ice sports and the GC braked with traction and in control. The Rotiva is softer than the GY Duratrac's. Then again, the Duratrac is for tougher conditions and load than the Rotiva for off trail usage.

Between having Goodyear, Firestone and Michelin over the years for my 4x4's, I find Nokian's to be the best.

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Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update

Does anyone know what the Rotiiva is rated at either C, D, or E? I called my local tire store and they said its T rated. Not sure what that means...
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Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update

Nokian Rotiiva AT - A all season tire that offers optimal performance with no compromises in terms of safety and driving comfort. / Nokian Tires

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code

Nokian Rotiiva AT tires have rating of T for sustained speeds up to 190 km/h or 118 mph under laboratory conditions.

The rated load-carrying capacity is 110 to 114 (up to 1,180 kg [2,600 lb] a tire) more than enough for any Grand Cherokee for passenger use.

Indices of C, D, and E refer to load-carrying capacity for tires for light trucks and commercial vehicles.

My Rotiivas now have been driven almost 34,000 miles or 55 000 km. The built-in tread marker shows 40% of the tread is left; they will likely need to be replaced by 50,000 miles or 80 000 km. The tires are now noisy because I failed to have the suspension aligned after 15,000 miles or 25,000 km and the tires may show some cupping along the edge. A big mistake on my part!

Are you thinking of buying Rotiiva ATs for your Grand Cherokee for highway and light off-roading? If so, the Rotiiva AT is likely the right choice. I do recommend the Rotiiva AT.
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Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update

Greetings,

I am now at 27,000 miles and they are still going strong. I rotate them roughly around 6,000 give or take a couple of hundred. After every winter season, they get a wheel alignment. I am running nitrogen in them. To date, the best AT that I have owned for traction.

They now have the Rotiva AT Plus line under Summer tires.

Nokian Rotiiva AT Plus - A summer tire that offers durable performance without compromise in terms of safety and driving comfort. / Nokian Tires

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Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update

So how does the SUV tire handle in dry and hot weather? It appears to be excellent in wet and cold conditions.
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Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update

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So how does the SUV tire handle in dry and hot weather? It appears to be excellent in wet and cold conditions.
Greetings,

These were my first impressions after 10k:
DRY:

Cornering Stability: 8.8
Dry Traction: 10.0
Steering Response: 9.0
Dry traction is not a problem even with hot temperatures and hi-speed driving (80ís for me). I did find the steering response was a little off from liking when I was down in Georgia last September. This I believe was from the soft compound which Nokian uses. I have read reports that soft non-dedicated winter tires in warmer to hotter climate temperatures get mush. I found that not to be the case. For an aggressive tire, I was surprised how well this one handles in cornering.


Now:

I am still very impressed. This past summer, I was out in the Mid West during that heat wave driving around the dry traction was still their. Cornering was about the same as in my last year's trip to Atlanta. Normally, a soft tire on hot roads doing highway speeds will become flexible and wishie-washie. It do not feel any signs of any lose of control. This occurred round 25,000 miles. My understanding of the new Rotiva AT plus (summer only so far) is better for hotter temperatures.

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Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update

What prices are you the SUV tires? I don't see any direct online quotes. Too bad they don't have it at Discount Tires or Costco....
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An internet search will show Nokian dealers. Make sure that the seller really is an authorized Nokian dealer.
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Re: Nokian Rotiva AT 265/60/18 10,000 mile update

Greetings,

Tiresbyweb.com is an authorized online dealer and that is were I purchased them.

Nokian Tires | American Racing Wheels and Rims | TiresByWeb.com

Then I had a local Goodyear dealer install them and did an alignment.

You can also look at STS tire who also authorized as well.

Tires for Sale by Brand

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So how does the SUV tire handle in dry and hot weather? It appears to be excellent in wet and cold conditions.
I'm running the wrg3. Hot, dry, wet are all great- even while towing. I'm fairly anxious to see how they do on snow and ice.
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I'm running the wrg3. Hot, dry, wet are all great- even while towing. I'm fairly anxious to see how they do on snow and ice.
Greetings,

I am not sure were you live, but, parts of the Lower 48 and Canada have seen snow already. More coming this weekend. If it is to long of a drive, then it should be here within a couple of weeks.

Good luck and happy trails with your WRG3 SUV's.

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