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Rake on WK2?

I know this is a basic question and did look for info, but what exactly is the reason the GC (and other SUVs/Cars) have the rake from front to back. Is it mainly engineered that way to maximize aerodynamics (MPG/wind noise) and ease of entry to front.

I'm asking since I plan on getting the RRO level and just want to know exactly what I'm 'undoing' that Jeep did.
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Aerodynamics and "the look"...
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Aerodynamics and "the look"...
So there's a whole market dedicated to "undoing" "the look"
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Re: Rake on WK2?

I don't know about cars but for SUV's and trucks the rake is due to additional height on the rear suspension to accommodate the tongue weight when towing. This way when you add the additional 500 pounds (tongue weight not towing capacity) your suspension still has room to absorb the bumps. I’m sure this in also in combination with aero considerations for MPG given the stiff rules in place in the US these days.

It seems like 99% of people who put on leveling kits don't bother to adjust the aim on the headlights either.
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I don't know about cars but for SUV's and trucks the rake is due to additional height on the rear suspension to accommodate the tongue weight when towing. This way when you add the additional 500 pounds (tongue weight not towing capacity) your suspension still has room to absorb the bumps. I’m sure this in also in combination with aero considerations for MPG given the stiff rules in place in the US these days.

It seems like 99% of people who put on leveling kits don't bother to adjust the aim on the headlights either.
Two good points. My wk2 has the rear load leveling suspension but the rake is still there so I'm not sure if that would affect the leveling kit. I don't mind the look that much, I'm looking to add slightly larger rubber and I'm not a fan of how close the fender comes to the tire in the front without the level.
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I'm considering the leveling kit after reading more about it. I also have the factory tow so the next question is what happens to the load leveling suspension.
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I'm considering the leveling kit after reading more about it. I also have the factory tow so the next question is what happens to the load leveling suspension.
What do you mean what happens to it? It doesn't have to be taken out and from what I've seen with others that have leveled theres with load leveling suspension, it doesn't really make a difference. It might when you tow though, that I can't confirm.
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What do you mean what happens to it? It doesn't have to be taken out and from what I've seen with others that have leveled theres with load leveling suspension, it doesn't really make a difference. It might when you tow though, that I can't confirm.
Well yeah, I think the concern is if your towing something or you have alot in the back will the level kit in the front throw it off and you'll be driving around with the front higher than the back thus defeating the purpose of the load leveling.
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Well yeah, I think the concern is if your towing something or you have alot in the back will the level kit in the front throw it off and you'll be driving around with the front higher than the back thus defeating the purpose of the load leveling.
I wasn't sure if they were concerned about that or the rake ("rack" ) still being there at all with the level and l.l. suspension...but yeah, I could understand that concern for towing and sagging in the back. Not a good look. I don't tow or plan to, so if I ever did, that would be a deal breaker for me probably.
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I wasn't sure if they were concerned about that or the rake ("rack" ) still being there at all with the level and l.l. suspension...but yeah, I could understand that concern for towing and sagging in the back. Not a good look. I don't tow or plan to, so if I ever did, that would be a deal breaker for me probably.
Yeah I agree, not a good look. Nothing's ever easy that's why I can't get off the fence. I noticed you have the 1.25 spacer. Was that a simple plug-n-play or did you have to trim anything?
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Yeah I agree, not a good look. Nothing's ever easy that's why I can't get off the fence. I noticed you have the 1.25 spacer. Was that a simple plug-n-play or did you have to trim anything?
It was really simple adding the spacers.

The only trimming was of the studs because they stuck out a little too far for the wheel to sit flush against them. Nothing major, just took a little bit longer and it didn't affect anything else. This part of the stud isn't threaded too, so it won't mess with anything if I change them out down the road. It's a known alteration most have to do with spacers, that I've seen.

And I'm currently maxed out with my tire size and stock suspension without rubbing, while the spacers are on. I tried fitting 265/70 profiles, but there was no way. Without the spacers, it probably would've worked. So if I ever want to go with larger tires with this setup, I'll have to add the level or lift.
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Re: Rake on WK2?

Yep, my concern was with towing. I don't tow very often but just wondering what it would look like
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