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RRO 2.5" lift + Bilstein 5100(front)

This info is for a '14 JGC 3.6L w/ORA1 & tow pckg.

Finally installed the RRO lift, which I bought 2.5 years ago! I also installed the 5100's up front, opting to leave the Nivomats out back from the tow pckg. From previous threads, swapping to a normal shock and leaving the spring appeared to cause some sag and was more of a variable height.

Pre-lift measurements floor to fender on 265/60/r18 Latitudes & 38psi.

Front appeared to be .5" lower than most@32.5":
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Rear @34.75":
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Old 02-10-2016, 11:56 PM
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift + Bilstein 5100(front)

Post-lift:

I communicated I wanted the Bilsteins installed on the lowest setting, giving .4" lift over stock. However they miscommunicated and the installer thought the lowest setting netted no lift and was stock height, so he installed on the 2nd thinking it gave .4", but really gave .75" lift. They checked with Bilstein and confirmed I was right and said they'd fix it if I had concerns... Actually, this appeared to work better though since my front appeared to sit .5" lower than the norm.

Measurements on the same 265/60r18 Latitudes @38psi. This was also after driving 60+ miles, so everything should be settled...

Front raised to 35 5/8", slightly over 3":
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Rear raised it to 37", just over 2":
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Currently, the rear is sitting ~1.5" higher in the rear...and evened it out by ~7/8". Alignment sheet showed everything was within the spec'd tolerances... However, I'm going to keep an eye on things...if that front height grows anymore, I'm going to have them drop the 5100's to the 1st notch.

The shop did suggest extended swaybar links as they were really tight, so i'll probably get the BWoody's in the near future.

Wheels/tires are going on tomorrow morning, will post final pics when they're on.


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Re: RRO 2.5" lift + Bilstein 5100(front)

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Re: RRO 2.5" lift + Bilstein 5100(front)

Looking again at the alignment sheet, shop said it was in the green... Well most is in the green... It does seem to drive good, but has an ever so slight pull to the right. It pulled more to the right before lift though.

In the red:

Front caster left:
3.25

Front caster right:
3.53

Rear left Camber:
.37

Rear right camber is green @:
.04

I'm not too familiar with what are acceptable tolerances... Do these look concerning?

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Re: RRO 2.5" lift + Bilstein 5100(front)

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Re: RRO 2.5" lift + Bilstein 5100(front)

That looks good! Nice work.
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift + Bilstein 5100(front)

Thank you Sir! ...love it when a plan comes together! Looks just like I pictured.

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Re: RRO 2.5" lift + Bilstein 5100(front)

That looks great! And dang, it looks like you still have a ton of room. I'd like to get some of the 5100's for the front end.

This might be a stupid question, but when you put the 5100's on, do you forego the front spacer provided by RRO? Or is the spacer still on there?
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift + Bilstein 5100(front)

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That looks great! And dang, it looks like you still have a ton of room. I'd like to get some of the 5100's for the front end.

This might be a stupid question, but when you put the 5100's on, do you forego the front spacer provided by RRO? Or is the spacer still on there?
Thanks! It's the full RRO lift with front (2") spacer/rear (1 5/8") spacer installed and 5100s up front only. 5100s installed @ 2nd notch for .75" lift, so 2.75" up front netting ~3" installed. The edge of the tire just kisses the felt right over the pinch weld at full steering lock. It looks like it would clear if I tack the felt back, but I'll like go ahead and fold them over so I don't worry about them at full compression.
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift + Bilstein 5100(front)

As the 1st one to do this, I gotta tell ya im worried about that 2nd notch you did. .4 vs .75 extra in the front. im at .4 and have a larger tire (which helps cv angle). with your 2.5 + .75 and a shorter tire your CV angle is past the point at which I feel is safe. Im afraid you will run in to longevity issues. just my .02

on another note, i suggest swapping out those nivomats for the 5100 rear. ride will get better, and the nivomats are known to fail fairly easily anyway. the swap is much easier than the front, and you only need a couple parts (mount pieces are different). you wont lose height or sag. im sitting at 37.5 at all 4 corners on my setup
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift + Bilstein 5100(front)

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As the 1st one to do this, I gotta tell ya im worried about that 2nd notch you did. .4 vs .75 extra in the front. im at .4 and have a larger tire (which helps cv angle). with your 2.5 + .75 and a shorter tire your CV angle is past the point at which I feel is safe. Im afraid you will run in to longevity issues. just my .02

on another note, i suggest swapping out those nivomats for the 5100 rear. ride will get better, and the nivomats are known to fail fairly easily anyway. the swap is much easier than the front, and you only need a couple parts (mount pieces are different). you wont lose height or sag. im sitting at 37.5 at all 4 corners on my setup
Yes, I definitely worked off your initial setup/test...so thanks for that info! Are you not using the rear spacer to be sitting @37.5"?

Yep I was worried too until I started measuring everything last night. Initially, my front end was already sitting .5" lower than the norm and my measurements were seeming tolerable in comparison to yours....last night.

What I never got, was RRO says 2.5" but it never netted 2.5" for anyone...the spacer is only 2" and always netted about that. The rear would also net about 2" when used with the tow package. I think they were basing that off ground clearance?

Anyway, you're 37.5" all 4 corners and your tires are exactly .5" taller than mine (so .25" more lift)...yours 32.8" and mine 32.3". I just went out and measured and looks like the front has started creeping up more...now sitting @ 37.25" and rear @ 38.25".

Just called the shop, they're going to get it in Mon. and put the 5100's on the first notch... 1st notch should drop it just under or at 37"...I have a feeling the sway/links have been wrestling against those 5100's...
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift + Bilstein 5100(front)

thats a good call on goin back to the 0.4 setting.

yes I still have the rear spacer in

on that note...these were my before specs
RRO 2.5 lift with 285/50-20 (31.26")Terra Grapplers.
Before (285 50s already on):
ground to fenderlip = 34.25 front 35.25 rear
After:
ground to fenderlip = 36.25 front 37.25 rear.

Now, add my 0.4 bilstein and
31.26 vs 32.8 tires approx .75 net height raise.
=37.4f and 38r

seems like all the math worked out along the way. rear will obviously fluctuate with gas load, etc. plus a possible change from that nivomat mount swap.
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