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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

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I would be apprehensive about putting the Eibach springs with the Bilstein struts up front. I'm assuming that the Eibach strut is physically longer to accommodate the taller springs. The Bilstein's appear to be designed for the stock spring height and trying to install a much taller spring may not even work when trying to get the strut top hat on. If you can get the top hat on, the springs might be so compressed that the ride suffers. I would compare the lengths of the two struts (fully compressed, fully extended, overall length, etc.) and discuss with Eibach prior to making the purchase. Another option if you wanted to go the Bilstein route is to add a spacer to the top of the strut. A RRO 'trim packer' 3/8 inch with the struts set to 1.75 inch lift, or the RRO leveling kit (1.75) on top of the Bilsteins set to the two lowest levels (.4 or .75) would allow you to achieve up to 2.5 inches of approximate lift. Everything I've read about the WK2 is that 2.5 inches of lift is close to the max allowed when just doing suspension mods.
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This is my thing

If you think just Eibach stuff for a second, they make an "all terrain lift" which is their shocks and their springs as a kit that allows for 2.5" of lift up front. I called Eibach and asked them if the spring part numbers are sold separately, and the rep gave me an Eibach part number (28108.640) which when you search for that via a google search you discover its branded as Eibach's "Pro Truck Lift" springs for the WK2. So with that said, if they are selling those lift springs as a standalone option you would think they might even be 'Ok' to run in stock shock? (Hypothetically speaking)

Or is that logic flawed?

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Old 11-12-2015, 03:08 PM
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

Hey kids, I'm getting 5100 series shocks all 4 corners installed Saturday morning here

(with OEM springs for now)
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

I got the Bilstein 5100 series struts installed up front. $824. for parts, labor, alignment and tax. The shop that did it stated that there were really no issues on the install but they did remove the axle from the hub on both sides for clearance. Ride is nice. Most noticeable with the ride is that there is now very little brake dive, where as before there seemed to be a lot. The Jeep is now perfectly level. Now just need some 275 55 20s to fill in the wheel wells and maybe a half to a full inch spring spacer and the 5100s in the rear.

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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

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I got the Bilstein 5100 series struts installed up front. $824. for parts, labor, alignment and tax. The shop that did it stated that there were really no issues on the install but they did remove the axle from the hub on both sides for clearance. Ride is nice. Most noticeable with the ride is that there is now very little brake dive, where as before there seemed to be a lot. The Jeep is now perfectly level. Now just need some 275 55 20s to fill in the wheel wells and maybe a half to a full inch spring spacer and the 5100s in the rear.
Hey man, thanks for posting looks great. So check my situation out. Jeep went in yesterday morning at 8:30 to the dealer to get all 4 corners done , they call me about 12:30 and state "Hey we got the rears done, no issues there, but in the front we had an issue with the axles and damaged the splines - so we will get you a new axle. On the front we had a hard time because the oem springs are wound so tightly our compressor couldn't compress them without wanting to jolt sideways so we are sending the shocks/springs to another shop Monday to get assembled"

A little odd to me since these guys service everything up to heavy duty 3500 / 2500 rams?

Either way, I have a loaner for now and I guess I'm getting some new axles?

(all warranty work for me here)
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

by the way, are you at the top notch ? I told the dealer to put me up to the top most notch
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

I need to retract a previous comment here regarding the dealer damaging the splines

I got that clarified, it was a misunderstanding. They simply replaced my front axles as a preventative measure, as they were worried due to the little rust on my current axles , upon reassembly they could damage the splines.

I will be picking up the Jeep tonight from the dealer - pretty happy currently.
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

Lots of talk, not enough pictures...

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Lots of talk, not enough pictures...

I know sorry, I will get some better ones today. But I believe I am sitting a tad higher in the front now, possibly .50-.75" but honestly I kind of dig it. My goal eventually here is to run 275 65 18 on a 0 offset and I am pretty sure the front the way it is now can accommodate that

Pardon my girlfriend who thinks my Jeep is 9 feet higher now than before when in reality we were just in a loaner Cherokee all week that felt like a civic haha

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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

Looks almost like you had it leveled with how high the front is. If/when I lift i'll probably go with 5100's and OME springs.
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Looks almost like you had it leveled with how high the front is. If/when I lift i'll probably go with 5100's and OME springs.
Yup it is for sure leveled now. It rides awesome - feels solid. I believe the ground to the center of my fender is 34.75" front 34" in the rears, maybe 34.125" in the rears

You have to keep in mind here, I came from OEM load leveling shocks in the back and that whole process required swapping out to the traditional shock mount to get it to work
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

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I installed the OME kit on my 3.6 Limited a few months ago and so far I'm happy with the product. I also considered the Eibach and Icon kits but just the fact that OME have 3 options for the WK2 leads me to believe their package is a little bit more thought out.

I have the 'no-load' front springs but I'm about to install the medium-load springs because I'm running the full mopar and chief underbody protection packages and I still don't have the ground clearance I'm looking for.

I'm happy to answer any questions for anyone else interested in the OME package.
Hey man, I have a 3.6 Laredo and was looking for the OME kit to install. As a UAE resident you probably already know the limited supply of WK2 accessories.

Did you find a local supplier in Dubai or did you have to ship them from the US? And if I would assume correctly, you should be doing the same kind of offroading here in the sand dunes, so how is the OME kit feeling so far?

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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

Hi Sukkar,

I ordered my original OME kit from Quadratec, they shipped it here via FedEx. I then ordered medium front springs from the local ARB Emirates in Dubai.

The kit makes a world of difference in the dunes, I highly recommend it. I do a lot of overland trips to Oman and even with heavy loads and cargo I don't bottom out.

To be honest where the car lets me down in the dunes is the front and rear bumpers acting as sand scoops. If you happen to sink the car to the axles watch out when getting towed out backwards, I've ripped off my front bumper twice like that.

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Hey man, I have a 3.6 Laredo and was looking for the OME kit to install. As a UAE resident you probably already know the limited supply of WK2 accessories.

Did you find a local supplier in Dubai or did you have to ship them from the US? And if I would assume correctly, you should be doing the same kind of offroading here in the sand dunes, so how is the OME kit feeling so far?

Cheers!
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