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RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

Have we even had this discussion ? If so, I apologize but I cannot seem to find it. At least not in one place its scattered across various threads between this forum and "the other forum"

Let's talk about the available lifts for the WK2 and their reliability factor on a daily driven vehicle

1) RRO's 2.5" 'suspension spacers (hope thats an appropriate term)
2) Eibach's All Terrain Lift 2" front .5" rear, shocks + springs
3) Old Man EMU lifts , shocks + springs
4) Apparently Icon makes a suspension lift now?
5) ???
6) ???

Through some basic research it seems some guys have had some issues with the RRO (beyond the company it self) kit ... while some have had no issues at all. Eibach - we have limited data as only a few guys have installed this lift... then Old Man EMU - has a single person on here even installed an OME kit on Jeepgarage?

Currently I'm dealing with a never ending issue on my WK2 laredo with factory load leveling shocks that fall apart every couple thousand miles or so... I want to lift so I'm leaning towards option 2 here but would like to have an open discussion about pro/cons of these products.

Feel free to reply with input or personal experience with any of these products

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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

I have also started doing research on the limited lifts available for the wk2. I emailed Fox and BDS and both companies said the wk2 was on their radar. When one becomes available I will probably go that route but for now I want something to help out with ground clearance.

I know Bilstein also makes adjustable shocks:

Bilstein - 5100 Series Front Shock Absorber - Fits 2011 to 2014 WK2 Grand Cherokee - 4WheelParts.com

As far as OME. This is the only guy I have found who installed one. He has a few videos doing some mild wheeling with it to.



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Old 08-07-2015, 10:20 AM
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

Yes I saw that youtube video too - not a ton of information though

Fox and BDS are both promising. "Chux Trux" just did an OME installation on YouTube - the OME stuff looks solid its just pricey

Part 1:

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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

As far as I can tell, it's mostly a question of do you want to go with a lesser spacer lift (RRO) or with a more functional full suspension lift (OME, Eibach or Icon)? How often and what kind of terrain will it really be used on?

I did a ton of research before I installed my RRO level and rear coil spacers and wasn't sold on the overall benefits of the full suspension lifts for my needs at this time. If I was planning on using my WK2 for off roading more often, I would've opted for one of the full suspension kits. But as for right now, it wasn't worth the extra cost for the parts and installation.

If I do hold onto this Jeep for long enough (maybe another 2 years or so), I'll definitely upgrade to either the OME or Icon, but I'm still not sold on the price points for the benefits gained from both of these kits. They just don't provide all that much difference for our WK2s, as they are already pretty limited on suspension/wheel travel and what options we have to upsize with better tires for offroad after the lift is installed.

I'd love to have the coin to drop on the Icon kit, as I now know they have a great reputation for suspension parts. But the thing that still irks me about their product is, they advertise it as fitting the '10 - Current WK2 models, but ignored the fact that there is no 2010 WK2 and still have yet to correct it on their site or elsewhere. Their kit for the WK2 also has little to no publicity or reviews, which doesn't make me eager to shell out an extra $1,000 or more, over one of the other kits, which I'm not sold will even perform better than they will.

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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

Also trying to find more info/ longer term reviews myself.. am wanting to do this to eliminate the factory shocks and hopefully never deal with that clunking again. The Eibach is only 700.. which is super cheap..but something about coil overs i just never have trusted.. so not sure which way to go...
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

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Also trying to find more info/ longer term reviews myself.. am wanting to do this to eliminate the factory shocks and hopefully never deal with that clunking again. The Eibach is only 700.. which is super cheap..but something about coil overs i just never have trusted.. so not sure which way to go...
Shocks/springs vs what ? There are no alternatives as far as suspension type

Your options are currently upgraded shocks/springs vs putting spacers (RRO's kit) on top of your factory shocks/springs (spacers)
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

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Shocks/springs vs what ? There are no alternatives as far as suspension type

Your options are currently upgraded shocks/springs vs putting spacers (RRO's kit) on top of your factory shocks/springs (spacers)
or... you can get RRO kit and upgrade the shocks to bilstein 5100's. No one is forcing you to keep the factory shocks with RRO. Bilsteins are the shit. Period.
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or... you can get RRO kit and upgrade the shocks to bilstein 5100's. No one is forcing you to keep the factory shocks with RRO. Bilsteins are the shit. Period.
How would that combination make any sense really though?

You are replacing a shock... then putting a spacer on top of it? Why not just get the correct length shock + springs and do it right the first time. Seems like a lot of guys on this forum and the "other" forum have a lot of issues with RRO stuff.
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How would that combination make any sense really though?



You are replacing a shock... then putting a spacer on top of it? Why not just get the correct length shock + springs and do it right the first time. Seems like a lot of guys on this forum and the "other" forum have a lot of issues with RRO stuff.

I think your mistaking the 5100's for 4600 hd's.

The bilsteins are the correct length. 4600's are for stock height. 5100's are for stock to 2 inch of lift (increased range of travel). Plus they are a much more durable monotube design that I always prefer. And they come with a lifetime warranty... Just my opinion but they make a superior product and they stand by it.

Just throwing another option out there for you. I've never heard good things about eibach dampers. Period. Their valving runs soft and only come with a 2 year warranty.


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5100's are for stock to 2 inch of lift (increased range of travel).
Ahh ok. Yes I have had Bilsteins on my old 02 Audi - loved them. I didn't realize they had an option for extended travel for us WK2s...

Now that I'm looking at 4WheelParts's website I see we have a few options actually for shocks...

1) ARB Shocks for 2-3" Lift - front and rear available
2) Icon's coilovers - apparently 4WheelParts is now carrying this...
3) Bilstein 5100 series shocks...
4) Pro Comp shocks... according 4WheelParts they fit WK2
5) Skyjacker shocks... according 4WheelParts they fit WK2

Now. I know someone posted elsewhere the Icon kit comes with Eibach springs... I don't see where you can simply purchase springs separate from shocks? Am I blind?

Would the ideal budget suspension lift kit be Bilstein shocks all 4 corners + Eibach springs?
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

Under further investigation of Eibach's "All Terrain Lift" kits... 28108.980 for non-tow , 28107.980 for tow...

They are using Eibach part #'s

28108.602 = front spring
28108.602 = rear spring

So hypothetically, you could simply purchase these springs for the lift. Then get Bilstein 5100 shocks...
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Re: RRO 2.5" lift vs Eibach All Terrain Lift Kit vs Old Man EMU - longevity

You guys definitely have some options for shocks 👍🏻


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