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Old 05-03-2011, 08:05 AM
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

This is too funny. Another Jeep inconsistency. I think they are doing it in order to keep these forum discssions interesting

As for this Jeep... it makes no sense... perhaps the 20's are being replaced by the ORA1 package - oh wait, that package is not listed. But then why does it indicate P265/60R18 BSW On/Off-Road Tires?

The other odd thing... the ORA packages come with OWL, not BSW.

Just weird...
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:29 AM
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

Here is a window sticker link along with a photo:

http://www.Jeep.com/hostc/getWindowS...RR4GT9BC666564

....Also, it is apparent from some of the replies that some people are very ignorant about what "Trail Rated" is....it is a certification by Jeep that the vehicle meets certain performance criteria. You wouldn't be happy if Jeep had factory installed SRT badges on a V6 after paying for a V8 SRT. It just makes a mockery of what Trail Rated is...
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:32 AM
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

And a photo of the wheels too.....note the Trail Rated badge along with the 70th badge.
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

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And a photo of the wheels too.....note the Trail Rated badge along with the 70th badge.

Regardless of the badge, not using 20" wheels isn't a marketing decision on the part of Jeep. (Although I can't explain the 70th) It's a decision to be taken seriously. I mean, who hits the trails with 20" wheels? It's like putting 20" wheels on a Mustang and taking it to the strip. Yes there are people that do it, but everyone else is laughing at them.
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

maybe the dealer added the badge and then added it to the sticker? I dont see the big deal anyway....
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

The VEHICLE itself is "Trail Rated" when it is a 4x4 and has a transfer case with Low-range (i.e. QT2, QD2) and has skid plates; wheels/tires are debatable.

The only reason, IMHO, that Chrysler put road tires with their off-road packages was because for every off-roader, there is an opinion as to which off-road tires are best. All those opinions change as the weather and type of trail changes too. So, Chrysler used essentially a throw-away tire as any true off-road driver would swap out whatever Chrysler placed on there anyway. If Chrysler used BFG All Terrains, many would have swapped for Mud Terrains...or visa versa. The problem is the way they marketed the off road package. IMHO of course.

FWIW, all my WK2 needs to be worthy of "Trail Rated" is some skid plates and beefier tires on my 20" wheels or swap out for taller sidewall tired 18" set. The important pieces for "Trail Rated" is having a 4x4 with that two-speed transfer case and skid plates.
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

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Regardless of the badge, not using 20" wheels isn't a marketing decision on the part of Jeep. (Although I can't explain the 70th) It's a decision to be taken seriously. I mean, who hits the trails with 20" wheels? It's like putting 20" wheels on a Mustang and taking it to the strip. Yes there are people that do it, but everyone else is laughing at them.
Well, I wouldn't go that far. I would say who is hitting the trails in 20" wheels with 50-series tires. Nothing wrong with a 20" rim and the appropriate tires, i.e. a trail worthy, 65 or larger series tire.


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.... The problem is the way they marketed the off road package. IMHO of course.

FWIW, all my WK2 needs to be worthy of "Trail Rated" is some skid plates and beefier tires on my 20" wheels or swap out for taller sidewall tired 18" set. The important pieces for "Trail Rated" is having a 4x4 with that two-speed transfer case and skid plates.
Agreed.

And I too agree with Scott, it's not a big deal... just more confusing than anything.
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

I still don't understand the 18" tires combined with the 20" wheels. What do the raised numbers on the sidewalls of the tires actually say?
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

Skid plates are NOT needed to get the trail rating. My WK and my dad's WJ don't have skid plates, but both are trail rated with the badge indicating so.
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

I think I will take the "Trail Rated" badge off of my Jeep and put it on my Ford Fusion, then I can take it to the 4x4 section of the Outer Banks when I go there.
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For Sale: Slightly used 'trail rated' badge. Very low mileage; <1000 miles.
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