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Old 05-02-2011, 11:16 PM
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Question SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

Yep....and we all thought you couldn't get a TRAIL RATED 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 20" wheels... There was a lot of discusison about this...I think even a Jeep engineer explained why no 20" wheel trail rated...and people had to order with the 18" wheels and swap them out for 20" after purchase...

BBBUUUUUTTTTTTT....the 70th Anniversary HAS 20" wheels with Trail Rated badge....listed on the window sticker AND an actual badge on the vehicle.

What is going on with this??? Is it a Jeep scandal???
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

Well ... Jeep is starting to make a mockery of the "Trail Rated" badge anyway, with the silly street tires delivered with the Off Road Adventure Group II.

Rather than beat that poor horse in this thread, interested readers can get their fill at:
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

how do you get the trail rated badge on the 70th? there's no OR pkg as an option on their website.
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

Here is from a 70th window sticker:

Customer Preferred Package 25Y $ 5,555
20-Inch x 8.0-Inch Aluminum Polished Wheels Power 8-Way Driver and Front Passenger
Seats Leather-Trimmed Bucket Seats Driver / Passenger Power 4-Way Lumbar Adjust Heated Front Seats Air Cond w/ Dual Zone Auto Temp Ctrl and Air Filter ParkView Rear Back Up Camera ParkSense Rear Park Assist System Uconnect Hands-Free Phone with Voice Command Media Center 430 CD/DVD/MP3/HDD 9 Premium Speakers with 506-Watt Amp and Subwoofer USB Port for Mobile Devices Security Alarm Remote Start System 115-Volt Auxiliary Power Outlet Tire Pressure Monitoring Display Leather-Wrapped Shift Knob Cargo Compartment Cover Universal Garage Door Opener P265/60R18 BSW On/Off-Road Tires Jeep 70th Anniversary Edition Jeep "70th Anniversary" Badge

Trailer Tow Group IV $ 695
7- and 4-Pin Wiring Harness Class IV Receiver Hitch Delete Rear Tow Hook Rear Load Leveling Suspension Steel Spare Wheel Full-Size Spare Tire

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Dual Bright Rear Exhaust Tips Hill Descent Control Quadra-Trac II 4WD System Selec-Terrain System "Trail Rated" Badge
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

I do not understand the discussion about the trail rated badge. For me its just a badge and if you order one with 18" Wheel and replace it with 20"... i mean - who cares.

So, whats behind that badge that makes it so special?
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:12 AM
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

I looked up a 70th 4x4 with the V6 ... no Trail Rated badge listed on the window sticker. Only the 70th 4x4 with the V8 had a Trail Rated badge... Odd. Must be a factory mistake or something since a V8 doesn't magically make it Trail Rated...right?

Then I saw a 70th 4x4 with the V8 but WITHOUT the Trailer Tow Group and it did NOT have the Trail Rated Badge.

So, why is a 70th 4x4 V8 with the Trailer Tow Group getting a Trail Rated badge? They all have the 20" wheels....

Something isn't right....
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:18 AM
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

OneCent....it isn't the "badge" per se....it is the fact that only Jeep certified "Trail Rated" Jeeps get a Trail Rated badge. Not all Jeeps are Trail Rated as the designation means it is very off road capable and passes certain tests. There was a lot of discussions why Jeep could not Trail Rate 20" wheels....it is a big deal.

There must be a glitch in the system that Trail Rate badged the 70th (with 20" wheels) 4x4 V8's with the trailer tow group.

I know people who specifically contacted Jeep HQ about wanting 20" wheels instead...Jeep said "no dice" for trail rating...

http://www.jeep.com/en/jeep_capabilities/trail_rated/
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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

Notice it happened after Obama provided his birth certificate... coincidence? I THINK NOT!







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Re: SCANDALOUS!!! 20" Wheels AND Trail Rated?!?!

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Here is from a 70th window sticker:

Customer Preferred Package 25Y $ 5,555
20-Inch x 8.0-Inch Aluminum Polished Wheels Power 8-Way Driver and Front Passenger
Seats Leather-Trimmed Bucket Seats Driver / Passenger Power 4-Way Lumbar Adjust Heated Front Seats Air Cond w/ Dual Zone Auto Temp Ctrl and Air Filter ParkView Rear Back Up Camera ParkSense Rear Park Assist System Uconnect Hands-Free Phone with Voice Command Media Center 430 CD/DVD/MP3/HDD 9 Premium Speakers with 506-Watt Amp and Subwoofer USB Port for Mobile Devices Security Alarm Remote Start System 115-Volt Auxiliary Power Outlet Tire Pressure Monitoring Display Leather-Wrapped Shift Knob Cargo Compartment Cover Universal Garage Door Opener P265/60R18 BSW On/Off-Road Tires Jeep 70th Anniversary Edition Jeep "70th Anniversary" Badge

Trailer Tow Group IV $ 695
7- and 4-Pin Wiring Harness Class IV Receiver Hitch Delete Rear Tow Hook Rear Load Leveling Suspension Steel Spare Wheel Full-Size Spare Tire

5.7-Liter V8 MDS VVT Engine $ 1,495
Dual Bright Rear Exhaust Tips Hill Descent Control Quadra-Trac II 4WD System Selec-Terrain System "Trail Rated" Badge
There's got to be a typo or mistake with this. It says that it has 20" wheels but then later it says that it has 18" tires. I don't think that you can fit 18" tires on 20" wheels.
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