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Re: Sipe My Tires?

Here's a few pics of my new Overland from last Saturday.

BTW, it snowed a bit on Sunday and the Latitudes struggled getting up my driveway...it is steeper than it looks in the photos.
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Old 04-06-2011, 05:26 PM
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Re: Sipe My Tires?

I have had no trouble with the Latitude Tours in snow, though they are obviously not designed for snow. Probably due to weight and AWD system of JGC. When they wear down some I will probably replace with Michelin LTX M/S 2's.
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Re: Sipe My Tires?

I siped the bfg mud terrains on my last truck. I drove that pretty aggressively and the tires started falling apart. The cuts in the tread and the tires spinning made them kinda chunk apart.
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Re: Sipe My Tires?

I would try to find some Goodyear MTR kevlars because they are a great offroad tire that will except studs. In my experience siping lowers tire life significantly. I put studded mtrs on my JKU and it was a beast in the snow this year...off course I have to take them off now and switch to another tire...but if you live where snow is commonplace you should probably have two sets anyway.
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Re: Sipe My Tires?

You might want to check the Latitudes to see if they are already siped. The Latitude Tour HP's I just installed on my 20" wheels are factory siped.
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Re: Sipe My Tires?

My tire dealer says the factory siping isn't adequate and his siping will increase snow handling by 50%. Is he selling a "snow job?"
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Re: Sipe My Tires?

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My tire dealer says the factory siping isn't adequate and his siping will increase snow handling by 50%. Is he selling a "snow job?"
I don't know what exact % of an increase you will get but I bet you will notice a nice improvement if you get it done.
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Re: Sipe My Tires?

i got off road package as well. I knew about Jeep misleading. I felt that the tires was not enough to warrant not to go for the vehicle, but never the less WHEN I AM TOLD I AM PAYING FOR OFF ROAD TIRES.... let's see i downgrade to 18" from 20"... what ever is the difference per tire, downgrade to 18" diameter again, add skid plates, add tow hooks, add $275... I would expect to get better tire! just 1 day of snow, but defiantly will be swapping sooner than later factory CRAP TIRE. if i wanted on-road tire i wold not be going for skid plates. I am not butthurt, but i would not hesitate to put my name on the doted line of any class action that one would start on subject of these tires/jeep bait and switch.
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Re: Sipe My Tires?

Since when are off road tires better in the snow? I can list plenty of off road tires that can't handle a dusting of snow. They list on road/ off road tires on the package, no where does it state all terrain tires or off road tires which would be what everyone is looking for. There is no validity in the complaints all tires made can go on road or off road (if you choose) lol.
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Re: Sipe My Tires?

As the OP for this thread, I never stated that off road tires are better in the snow. I'm simply interested in finding out how to improve the snow handling capability of the Latitude Tour tires.

FWIW, the Michelin LTX A/T2s are listed as "On/Off-Road All Terrain" tires on Tire Rack and On/Off-Road on Michelin's site. They are also rated much better for snow handling than the Latitude Tours, in addition to being On/Off-Road.

As usual, thread creep ensued. The issue with Chrysler shipping all-season tires in their Off Road Adventure package was discussed. This is a separate subject from my original post.

As to "no validity in the complaints all tires made can go on road or off road," I simply disagree. It is totally valid to complain when Chrysler adverstises all-season tires as stock and Off/On-road tires as an option with the ORA Pkg and instead ships all-season tires. Using your logic, I shouldn't complain if they sent me dragster racing slicks.

If they had shipped my Overland with On/Off-Road tires that sucked in the snow, that would be OK with me since there is no deceptive advertising. At least I would have On/Off-Road tires as advertised.

As it is, I'm simply trying to figure out whether to keep the all-season Latitude Tours if I can make them handle better in the snow. Just one day on the snow convinced me they will require too much babying during a Colorado winter.
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Re: Sipe My Tires?

To the original post, If I lived in Colorado I would have a dedicated set of winter tires and a dedicated set of summer tires in the proper configuration depending on whether you planned on doing any serious offroading. BTW, the street price for the factory 18" wheels is around $180 so it would make sense to buy a second set of rims and have everything mounted and ready to go come next fall. IMHO the Latitudes aren't what you want come winter in Colorado.
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Re: Sipe My Tires?

IF you ordered the vehicle with the off road package and it came with those tires, then you have justification to voice a complaint and the dealer is obligated to provide the proper tires. If you bought it off the dealer inventory, and those tires were on it when you test drove it, there is nothing you can do now.
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