Go Back   Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum > Jeep Platform Discussion > Grand Cherokee - WK2 - > Suspension/Driveline/Brakes/Wheels/Tires

Join Jeep Garage Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
  #37  
Old 12-13-2013, 05:13 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Southeast PA.
Posts: 126
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 675
Dave in Pa is on a distinguished road
Re: Snow!! Not so good...

So twice in snow with the Lattitudes, not great! Stopped at my local go-to tire dealer and I chose the Hankook I Pikes that fit my 18 inch wheels. Be here Monday, $170 each includes balance & mounting and I will keep the Lattitudes and put them back on after winter. Don't have time to search for used wheels at the moment. Could not get me Blizzaks or the Cooper weathermaster from her suppliers (sold out) and I briefly considered Discoverer AT3's after looking at one (same price as Hankooks) but I don't really go off-road so I chose the Hankooks. Hope I made the right decision! Dave
__________________

__________________
2014 Limited V-6 Tow Pkg 8.4 Cashmere & Light Frost
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 12-13-2013, 07:32 PM
AKHLK's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2012 5.7L WK2
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 93
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 824
AKHLK is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave in Pa View Post
So twice in snow with the Lattitudes, not great! Stopped at my local go-to tire dealer and I chose the Hankook I Pikes that fit my 18 inch wheels. Be here Monday, $170 each includes balance & mounting and I will keep the Lattitudes and put them back on after winter. Don't have time to search for used wheels at the moment. Could not get me Blizzaks or the Cooper weathermaster from her suppliers (sold out) and I briefly considered Discoverer AT3's after looking at one (same price as Hankooks) but I don't really go off-road so I chose the Hankooks. Hope I made the right decision! Dave
This is my second winter running studded Hankook ipikes. I've been quite happy with them, I think you made a good decision. Let us all know what you think after you've had a chance to try them out.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 12-13-2013, 07:33 PM
pinetar's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Sierra NV
Posts: 713
Thanks: 1
Thanked 23 Times in 23 Posts
Rep Power: 1491
pinetar has a reputation beyond reputepinetar has a reputation beyond reputepinetar has a reputation beyond reputepinetar has a reputation beyond reputepinetar has a reputation beyond reputepinetar has a reputation beyond reputepinetar has a reputation beyond reputepinetar has a reputation beyond reputepinetar has a reputation beyond reputepinetar has a reputation beyond reputepinetar has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snow!! Not so good...

+1 for Blizzaks.

Got the DM-V1's about a month ago and they turn the Jeep into a perfect snow beast.
Almost got the IPikes instead, but they had a better price on these.

I think you definitely made the right choice to get a dedicated winter set.
__________________
BLOO WK2 '14 - True Blue - Laredo E - V6 - ORA I - QT II

17" JK Moabs / 265/65-17 Wrangler AT Adventure (summer) / 265/65-17 Blizzak DM-V1 (winter) / 1.25" BORA Spacers / Gibson Axle Back (SS) Exhaust / aFe Pro-Dry S Drop-In Filter / Tinted Tails / Mid Level Road Magnets + New Wheel/Tire Setup (soon)
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 01-01-2014, 06:32 PM
joenjulie's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Uniontown, OH
Posts: 278
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 1101
joenjulie is on a distinguished road
Garage
F1anatic, that would seem the way to go, widen the footprint, get more tread down for a bigger contact patch. I used to run wider blizzaks with that premise, but I talked to several industry folks that said go narrow, increasing the pressure on the contact patch...especially when you get that built up slush, or some powdery snow, the tires will cut through better, instead of possibly "floating". I still like more rubber on the road, but I went narrower on a pickup(4wd) and a wrangler I had and I noticed it helped. I run narrower/taller on the grand in the winter.
I think some of the lack of traction comes from the fact they almost always(where I live at least) are salting, making the roads a little wet underneath, then it kind of freezes, and then a little snow on top. Snow is sticky, and you can get better traction when there's snow on the road then the wet slushy stuff. Plus, tires like blizzaks have tiny pores that squeeze the water out/suck it up removing the wet film caused by the friction of the tire on the road, allowing the tread to grab with all the siping. Many new tires in an effort to get mileage have stiffer tread for longevity, and people are dumb and don't realize their H/V/W/Y/Z rated rated tires on their cars aren't meant for colder temps even though they say all season...ok at some, master of none. I had pirelli p zero Nero m&s on an Acura TL, and despite the m&s rating they were useless even in cold rainy days as the tread was too stiff to grab...it usually stayed in the garage, the day I traded it it rained/sleet/etc and was like 34 degrees, only time it went out in the cold in anything close to snow, but a couple cold rainy spring days, it didn't grip for crap. My charger rt I would never consider driving in the snow with its performance all seasons...it sits in the garage until there is a clear dry day...we take the wife's grand or my dually, may get wheel/tire pkg next year for winter.
__________________
If you were born here, you're American, no colors, no races...know your heritage and be proud of it, but act like an American, or go to the nearest coast or border...AND LEAVE!!
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 01-01-2014, 06:37 PM
joenjulie's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Uniontown, OH
Posts: 278
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 1101
joenjulie is on a distinguished road
Garage
I do hate though, the electronic nannies think they can drive better than me...cutting power, straightening the vehicle when I'm trying to drive with my foot and the wheel
__________________
If you were born here, you're American, no colors, no races...know your heritage and be proud of it, but act like an American, or go to the nearest coast or border...AND LEAVE!!
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 01-02-2014, 06:57 AM
Member
My Jeep: 2012 5.7L WK2
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Lucinda, PA
Posts: 37
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 1038
MikeON is on a distinguished road
Re: Snow!! Not so good...

Quote:
Originally Posted by joenjulie View Post
I do hate though, the electronic nannies think they can drive better than me...cutting power, straightening the vehicle when I'm trying to drive with my foot and the wheel
Yes, my 1963 CJ5 with GY Wrangler M+S radials and open diffs will vastly outperform (traction-wise) my 2012 GC Limited with Latitudes and all the electronic enhancements. I've been testing both Jeeps in my backyard which has some slope and about 8" of snow. The difference is like night and day. No amount of electronics will increase the coefficient of friction between the rubber and the surface it is rolling (or sliding) on. Most concerning to me is how little stopping ability the Latitudes provide going downhill. The ABS kicks in and it just keeps on going. Looks like I'll be shopping for tires today.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 01-02-2014, 03:46 PM
joenjulie's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Uniontown, OH
Posts: 278
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 1101
joenjulie is on a distinguished road
Garage
My dually,although a '12, has no nannies, so I can drive with my foot and the wheel, although I have good AT's on it, with the weight for winter, my tools, it weighs about 9800lbs, and it does not help me stop and turn, the ABS goes crazy when I over cook it a bit, but it's usually my fault. Biggest difference with the blizzaks is the stopping and turning and being able to maneuver well...when my wife had a FWD car, we drove it over my dually because of the blizzaks.
__________________
If you were born here, you're American, no colors, no races...know your heritage and be proud of it, but act like an American, or go to the nearest coast or border...AND LEAVE!!
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 01-03-2014, 10:56 AM
Member
My Jeep: 2012 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Manchester, CT
Posts: 40
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 353
Bake is on a distinguished road
Following my second snow storm now with the Lattitudes I'm actually fairly impressed with how they've handled. I've had no issues at all with traction or stopping. First snowfall was only 6 inches or so, this one was 10 inches. I was expecting a lot worse with all the horror stories I read about.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 01-03-2014, 11:14 AM
bill_de's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 5.7L WK2
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,018
Thanks: 307
Thanked 318 Times in 280 Posts
Rep Power: 1801480
bill_de has a reputation beyond reputebill_de has a reputation beyond reputebill_de has a reputation beyond reputebill_de has a reputation beyond reputebill_de has a reputation beyond reputebill_de has a reputation beyond reputebill_de has a reputation beyond reputebill_de has a reputation beyond reputebill_de has a reputation beyond reputebill_de has a reputation beyond reputebill_de has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snow!! Not so good...

My Jeep saw it's first snow today. The bottom of my driveway was the deepest I encountered, about 18" for 20 - 30 feet. I put it in snow mode and raised it to OR1. I was in reverse and barely felt like I was going through snow. When I got home I pulled into the other side of the driveway and although I could feel it, there was no problem.

I found a couple of roads that showed no tire tracks. The snow was only about 6" with some 10" drifts. Although any old, heavy, rear wheel drive would have made it through the Jeep handled it with no effort.

I don't know if I accumulated some ice underneath, but I had an unexpected clunk. After I stopped the car I hit the down button twice to go from OR1 to exit/entry mode. About half way down after a loud clunk it stopped moving, but the lowering light stayed on. It was clearly not all the way down. I raised it again and lowered it and all seemed OK.

Now I'm looking forward to a real snow storm.



---
__________________
If you need a shoulder to cry on ...

... pull over to the side of the road!

Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 01-03-2014, 12:45 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Southeast PA.
Posts: 126
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 675
Dave in Pa is on a distinguished road
Re: Snow!! Not so good...

So we got about 6 or 7 inches here, not a big deal but I took the Jeep out and the I Pikes are just amazing; the Lattitudes on my Limited were absolutely ridiculous! Glad I got the dedicated snow tires. By the way MikeON, where is Lucinda PA, I have not heard of it, did you get some snow? I reside in Chester County. Dave
__________________
2014 Limited V-6 Tow Pkg 8.4 Cashmere & Light Frost
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 01-04-2014, 05:42 AM
Member
My Jeep: 2012 5.7L WK2
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Lucinda, PA
Posts: 37
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 1038
MikeON is on a distinguished road
Re: Snow!! Not so good...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave in Pa View Post
So we got about 6 or 7 inches here, not a big deal but I took the Jeep out and the I Pikes are just amazing; the Lattitudes on my Limited were absolutely ridiculous! Glad I got the dedicated snow tires. By the way MikeON, where is Lucinda PA, I have not heard of it, did you get some snow? I reside in Chester County. Dave
Lucinda in in Clarion County, western PA. About 8" of snow. I'm getting snow tires next week. Wanted Blizzaks, but they are out of stock in this area, so am getting GY Ultra Grip Ice. I'll be looking for a set of summer rims for the Latitudes. On Wednesday, I was gently slowing to turn into my driveway and slid right past it. The ABS was kicking in, but it was almost like no brakes at all. Had a couple similar experiences last year, and so has my friend with a 2011 GC and Latitudes.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 01-04-2014, 09:05 AM
GCLimited's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Mass
Posts: 848
Thanks: 0
Thanked 36 Times in 28 Posts
Rep Power: 3404
GCLimited has a reputation beyond reputeGCLimited has a reputation beyond reputeGCLimited has a reputation beyond reputeGCLimited has a reputation beyond reputeGCLimited has a reputation beyond reputeGCLimited has a reputation beyond reputeGCLimited has a reputation beyond reputeGCLimited has a reputation beyond reputeGCLimited has a reputation beyond reputeGCLimited has a reputation beyond reputeGCLimited has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: Snow!! Not so good...

Drove through 13" of powder snow at -7 degrees F with the crappy stock 20" Goodyear tires...not bad at all (in "Snow" mode).

My only complaint was on icy roads at those below 0F conditions...not too good.
__________________

__________________
2014 Granite GC Overland 4x4 3.6L / Mud Flaps / Pedal Set / Lighted Door Sills / Slush Mats & Cargo Mat / H11 Phillips Fog Light Bulbs / Skid Plates (Front & Middle Only) / Tinted Front Door Windows (35%) / Airaid CAI / Build Date: 12/13 / 8.4AN v14.25.05
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
looking for recommendation on where to find good set of wheels for snow tires mfa81 Grand Cherokee - WK2 - 13 09-29-2013 12:29 AM
Looking good in the snow! mike0227 Members Rides-Showoff 3 02-11-2013 10:53 PM
11 GC 2WD good enough for snow? Open differential? morty346 Tech Tips/DIY/How To 3 12-28-2012 01:36 PM
Goodyear Forteras... Any Good in Snow? ColoradoJeep Suspension/Driveline/Brakes/Wheels/Tires 8 04-12-2012 06:08 AM
Is this a good deal for an srt front bumper it looks good the guy said it's 9/10 blackonblack Grand Cherokee - WK 13 04-17-2011 09:26 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community