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Angry Snow!! Not so good...

So today less than 1 inch and 23 degrees and I think the Lattitudes are not so good. Experimented on untraveled back roads and although everything is spinning they don't seem to bite at all?! I had MS2's on my Trailblazer and it was great! Tried sand and snow mode but not really any better. Instead of spending a grand on Michelin LTX MS'2s I thought of just getting dedicated Firestone Snow tires for the winter for probably less than $600 and just taking them of in the spring? The Lattitudes have been great on dry & wet and even pulling my boat. (18 inch wheels) What do the experts think? Dave
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Re: Snow!! Not so good...

Nokian tires are worth looking into.
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Re: Snow!! Not so good...

First 1-2" of snow is the toughest to drive in. Gentle on the loud pedal and let the AWD and electronic nannies do the driving. I rarely if ever drive in the snow or ice with heavy boots on. I take my boots off and drive with my Sperry's or NBs on. Its tough with the fly by wire loud pedal to find the sweet spots but they are there.
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Re: Snow!! Not so good...

Well thanks everyone; I will wait for another "event" and see how that goes but maybe I will have to get Blizzaks or a snow type tire in the not to distant future. I will keep watching the posts & threads here! Dave
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I was actually pretty pleased at how well the Lattitudes performed in the snow today. I was not expecting much, but they did very well, with no spinning or sliding. As stated, the fly by wire is tough to master, but there do seem to be sweet spots for days like today.
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Re: Snow!! Not so good...

That's good news. Of course, all-season tires are designed for two inches of snow or so. Beyond that depth, snow tires are called for.
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That's good news. Of course, all-season tires are designed for two inches of snow or so. Beyond that depth, snow tires are called for.
I agree, but the problem for me, is that we rarely get enough snow to warrant buying dedicated snow tires. I had a set of Blizzaks on my old X5, which lasted only 1 season, due to temps mostly over 45 degrees.
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I agree, but the problem for me, is that we rarely get enough snow to warrant buying dedicated snow tires. I had a set of Blizzaks on my old X5, which lasted only 1 season, due to temps mostly over 45 degrees.
Try Pirelli ice & snows or blizzak LM25s. Ive run both, the LM25s on a 2002 M3 and the Pirelli's are on my Jeep. They are both considered to be high performance winter tires that don't wear as quickly as others. I drove on the blizzaks for 4 winters and sold them with about 70% tread left.

We don't have much snow around here but they are fantastic in cold, wet conditions. Far better than all seasons. I also took both tires through the mountain passes and they have performed flawlessly. I got a bit more adventurous with the Jeep and drove up some pretty steep snow covered forest service roads.

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Re: Snow! Not so good...

An alternative to a winter-only tire is an all-season tire that is certified as a snow tire. Look for the snowflake-mountain symbol on the sidewall. Goodyear and Nokian, and likely others, make such a tire.
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Re: Snow!! Not so good...

I live in Philly/NJ and here is what I did:

Bought 4 18x8 rims off a 11-13 Durango on ebay for 85 each incl. shipping (great deal but came with some road rash but since winter wheels I will feel less mad if I scratch them)

Bought 4 Nokian Hakkapelitta R2 SUV 265/60 R18 tires from STS for $239 each

Bought 4 TPMS sensors off ebay for $50 incl. delivery (sync'd with the jeep just fine after drivng at highway speeds for 10+ mins)

Drove 30 miles tonight on PA turnpike and some main/side roads and the Jeep handled perfectly. Better than stock....
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That's good news. Of course, all-season tires are designed for two inches of snow or so. Beyond that depth, snow tires are called for.
Not really. All season or no seasons dont have the tread compounds and tread design to handle that first two inches of snow.

I am on my second season on the Blizzaks and still have plenty of tread left. We will see how much tread is left in March. I only run my winter tires for approx 90 days.

The X5 maybe tougher on tires.

Tarpon Beach if you decide to get winter tires my tire guy in Silver Spring MD has beat Discount and Tire Rack prices for the last 25 years.
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